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[10 point]

Simple things like surepost and access points which are blatant contract violations and taking away of jobs are being done in front of all of us, you guys are too worried about tdu vs ibt when all this energy could be spent actually solving problems!!!!

People are getting harassed daily, there are many area months behind on greviences, guys out for months for bs firing yet all these Stewart's have time to engage in this bs

Either way sorry to interrupt your Guys battle that will never stop.... I'll see my way out of this thread

Surepost is not a contract violation. The company made agreements with some shippers to mirror and stop the bleeding of volume to FedEx's Smartpost program.

Are there abuses in the surepost system? Yes. We ( here) watch them daily for the pkgs that are depicted as violating the CBA and bring them back to be reprocessed for UPS drivers to deliver the next day.
Proximity stops abuse????? That's on the IBT Pkg Division leadership. Yeah, we're still waiting on a definition of those. That's bull for sure. (Unless the local got clarification on them and didn't educate us on it.)

Yes. My solution is not give any cares? You know why, this system already in place is faulted. Very faulted and there is no way any side is going to fix this. We as humans are such "know it all" that instead of getting together doing the only thing that will fix it

a total revolution and starting from an absolutely clean slate

we instead have the urge to go back and forth. Any 2 party system is failed, the whole political system in this country is failed.

"Lesser of all evils" is how it is and that's not how it's supposed to be.

I'll sit back, laugh at the politics in every aspect of this government from is teamsters to the presidential election and do the only thing any person who is convent does.... Sit back and laugh all the way to the bank

We need an absolute and total reset, any government or leadership in a proper society is not meant to last close to as long as ours has. I just like to point out to people so involved in this silly battle how stupid they look from somebody who understands the whole end game.

I don't vote for anything. Since the 60s everything is rigged, and who ever you vote for does nothing to actually help, show me one recent contract we haven't given concessions. All voting does is make people think they can change the outcome....

The outcome of ups making more money, giving us less, and slowly eroding the teamsters is in full effect and there is absolutely no way in hell the train can be stopped. Doesn't matter which side you vote for ups wins and will keep winning

All of this back and forth energy needs to be spent getting us young guys to care, but when we see this we don't.

Allow me to explain that overview in my singular observation:

If I have ten tons of gravel to spread on my driveway and I only have a spade to do it with I'm sure as heck not going to put off because it looks like an insurmountable job and just give up and walk away.

All of us on this forum have one shovel, one life, and one opportunity to spread what we believe and who we believe in for leadership. That is our right and responsibility. Period.

I have many times wanted to say screw this and let someone else carry my load, do my homework, protect my rights. But after the smoke cleared and I ran out of pity party invitations I realized that it only took one Jonathan to start the butt kicking the Philistines got, one Kennedy to stare down the Cubans and Russians, and one Washington to march on Trenton when they were facing eminent destruction.

The people on here are not weak. But giving up is cowardly and we want no part of that whatsoever.

 

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Surepost is not a contract violation. The company made agreements with some shippers to mirror and stop the bleeding of volume to FedEx's Smartpost program.

Are there abuses in the surepost system? Yes. We ( here) watch them daily for the pkgs that are depicted as violating the CBA and bring them back to be reprocessed for UPS drivers to deliver the next day.
Proximity stops abuse????? That's on the IBT Pkg Division leadership. Yeah, we're still waiting on a definition of those. That's bull for sure. (Unless the local got clarification on them and didn't educate us on it.)



Allow me to explain that overview in my singular observation:

If I have ten tons of gravel to spread on my driveway and I only have a spade to do it with I'm sure as heck not going to put off because it looks like an insurmountable job and just give up and walk away.

All of us on this forum have one shovel, one life, and one opportunity to spread what we believe and who we believe in for leadership. That is our right and responsibility. Period.

I have many times wanted to say screw this and let someone else carry my load, do my homework, protect my rights. But after the smoke cleared and I ran out of pity party invitations I realized that it only took one Jonathan to start the butt kicking the Philistines got, one Kennedy to stare down the Cubans and Russians, and one Washington to march on Trenton when they were facing eminent destruction.

The people on here are not weak. But giving up is cowardly and we want no part of that whatsoever.

great response and I get you

In my life I would rather use my spare time to enjoy the arts, self teach my self anything I'm in the mood for that day, bring my friends and loved ones happiness, and help who I care about. That to me is more important than dealing with a system that is a complete joke.

Your examples of one man are right, sadly those days were gone with Kennedy. Big cooporate interest and greed run this modern world we live in.

If you can't beat em join em!!! Let's get this money

Brb while I go watch tmz, between here and there I can get my daily gossip dose!!

 

[10 point]

great response and I get you

In my life I would rather use my spare time to enjoy the arts, self teach my self anything I'm in the mood for that day, bring my friends and loved ones happiness, and help who I care about. That to me is more important than dealing with a system that is a complete joke.

Your examples of one man are right, sadly those days were gone with Kennedy. Big cooporate interest and greed run this modern world we live in.

If you can't beat em join em!!! Let's get this money

Brb while I go watch tmz, between here and there I can get my daily gossip dose!!

There's Kennedys and Churchills born every day.
They just too often believe the lie that they can't when they can.

I understand, pick your battles. For some, they just can't help themselves. For others, they just watch as corporate America picks their pockets.

Reference the percentage of people who voted during UPS's last CBA. Therein lies our problem.

Apathy.

 

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Union busters in RI used 251 strong material for union busting. Way to go H campaign

Or maybe it was just the poor job the United Actions high payed "organizer" is doing. There was never an issue of "union busting" when YOU were putting people's faces on milk cartons. And since you bring it up, why don't you post these "union busting" transgressions you speak of?

 

[Gimme Danger]

Your Truth flyer ended up in management's hands and used for union busting.

 

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Your Truth flyer ended up in management's hands and used for union busting.

And? Post it.

 

[Gimme Danger]

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[Gimme Danger]

http://nebula.wsimg.com/ecf45ae0ca212ca8e5ca969f998d5811?AccessKeyId=8753BEA19CFAA89D08E0&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

And? Post it.

 

[wide load]

http://nebula.wsimg.com/ecf45ae0ca2...3BEA19CFAA89D08E0&disposition=0&alloworigin=1

So how does you screwing over your members, anti Union? Looks like your negotiator is anti Union. Who negotiated that anyway?

 

[hellfire]

Yes. My solution is not give any cares? You know why, this system already in place is faulted. Very faulted and there is no way any side is going to fix this. We as humans are such "know it all" that instead of getting together doing the only thing that will fix it

a total revolution and starting from an absolutely clean slate

we instead have the urge to go back and forth. Any 2 party system is failed, the whole political system in this country is failed.

"Lesser of all evils" is how it is and that's not how it's supposed to be.

I'll sit back, laugh at the politics in every aspect of this government from is teamsters to the presidential election and do the only thing any person who is convent does.... Sit back and laugh all the way to the bank

We need an absolute and total reset, any government or leadership in a proper society is not meant to last close to as long as ours has. I just like to point out to people so involved in this silly battle how stupid they look from somebody who understands the whole end game.

I don't vote for anything. Since the 60s everything is rigged, and who ever you vote for does nothing to actually help, show me one recent contract we haven't given concessions. All voting does is make people think they can change the outcome....

The outcome of ups making more money, giving us less, and slowly eroding the teamsters is in full effect and there is absolutely no way in hell the train can be stopped. Doesn't matter which side you vote for ups wins and will keep winning

All of this back and forth energy needs to be spent getting us young guys to care, but when we see this we don't.

Well said

 

[Gimme Danger]

So how does you screwing over your members, anti Union? Looks like your negotiator is anti Union. Who negotiated that anyway?

Who says the flyer is accurate?
Also, you only mention wages, what about the rest of the contract negotiated? From my understanding, a lot of seniority violations were caused by secret deals by the old union. That contract fixed a lot of issues.

 

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Who says the flyer is accurate?
Also, you only mention wages, what about the rest of the contract negotiated? From my understanding, a lot of seniority violations were caused by secret deals by the old union. That contract fixed a lot of issues.

Who negotiated it?

 

[Gimme Danger]

The elected negotiating committee?

 

[BigUnionGuy]

From my understanding

"I thought"

"I heard"

Or....

"Somebody told me."



-Bug-

 

[wide load]

The elected negotiating committee?

Hahaha. They all got to speak? Who was the lead negotiator?

 

[Gimme Danger]

Hahaha. They all got to speak? Who was the lead negotiator?

You should ask a hospital member, maybe someone on the committee?

 

[Gimme Danger]

"I thought"

"I heard"

Or....

"Somebody told me."



-Bug-

I don't work at that workplace, but I have many friends who do.

 

[wide load]

You should ask a hospital member, maybe someone on the committee?

I'm asking you. Aren't you "in the know"?

 

[wide load]

I don't work at that workplace, but I have many friends who do.

So are any of them on the negotiating committee? Ask them who the lead negotiator was. If they are unsure, remind them it was the guy they never saw before or never recognized his name.

 

[Gimme Danger]

I'm asking you. Aren't you "in the know"?

I believe one of the brothers who gave a stewards training was involved in the contract there. A retired Teamster.