Union Politics - Shop Steward Petitions not Honored @ 952

[realbrown1]

Steward elections are happening in Laguna......... Where are all the reformers? Ha ha ha ha! All this trash talk on the internet like there is some uprising against the local but you can't get one to put their name on the steward list. Hmmmmm

You are worried about shop steward election in a center, but have nothing to say about our local's net worth being -$410,000 on Dec 31, 2014, and probably -$600,000 on Dec 31, 2015?

Way to focus on what's actually important, LB.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Certain contracts throughout the country have "super seniority" language in contracts to protect stewards from layoffs. And the thoughts behind that was that if a company did have layoffs and stewards were low enough in the seniority roster to be affected by a layoff that would protect them from that. Most do not use it for bidding purposes unless stewards were needed on certain shifts that they could not get unless they have "super seniority"

But that is old language that was needed when they had strong stewards that were backed by a strong local. Nowadays especially our locals here so-cal are weak and the leaders could care less about stewards. When stewards have a "misunderstanding" with our union official they are removed.

Go find out how much the company has paid its members for contract violations at UPS barns and tell us again who has strong stewards and Locals. You better get your facts straight son, your sounding more like EE everyday.

 

[LagunaBrown]

You are worried about shop steward election in a center, but have nothing to say about our local's net worth being -$410,000 on Dec 31, 2014, and probably -$600,000 on Dec 31, 2015?

Way to focus on what's actually important, LB.

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

 

[realbrown1]

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

The net worth has dropped every year since 2008.

And the IRB and the IBT both know that NET WORTH is a sign of good or bad cash flow.

And 952's cash flow is TERRIBLE.

 

[The Silent Bang]

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

I'm wondering what you've done for our local .. Better yet what has our leadership done for our members?? Free food doesn't cut it! How about valuable representation? How about listening to members concerns? How about answering our calls? Seems to me that you paint a pretty picture of a pile of >>>>>

 

[Lead Belly]

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

Yea but he still got pimp slapped off a bar stool in Vegas. He's got that going for him.

 

[Evil]

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

Then the leaking roof of the union hall and the plumbing should be taken care sooner than later, right?

 

[LagunaBrown]

I'm wondering what you've done for our local .. Better yet what has our leadership done for our members?? Free food doesn't cut it! How about valuable representation? How about listening to members concerns? How about answering our calls? Seems to me that you paint a pretty picture of a pile of >>>>>View attachment 59351

We personally I deal with members seniority, harassment, Deaths, Divorce, Drug/alcohol addiction, Healthcare and a host of other issues daily. When I call my BA they get back to me right away and help to provide the valuable reputation to the membership in my craft which in turn makes a stronger local. We have had numerous termination return to work and thousands of dollars paid through the grievance procedure this year. All the proof you need is right there and you can ask those BA to show grievance settlements to you if you want to get embarrassed. Why you lying on the internet bro?

 

[LagunaBrown]

Then the leaking roof of the union hall and the plumbing should be taken care sooner than later, right?

Oh right shall I post all your Bull posts about 952? Get out of here bro, you have zero credability. Your desperation is truly pathetic.

 

[LagunaBrown]

Steward election in Laguna why don't you reformers all put your money where your mouth is and run. Ha ha ha ha ha! What a joke you guys are!

 

[Lead Belly]

Then the leaking roof of the union hall and the plumbing should be taken care sooner than later, right?

If your plumbing isn't working why don't you try Cialis? Get out of your moms basement go out and get some. This union stuff will be there tomorrow. It's not like your job is that or a steward or union official. You are just an Internet armchair quarterback. Go get ur groove back. Or your first one or whatever.

 

[realbrown1]

Those are incorrect numbers and you know it. You have to deceive members to make a point when you know that is "book value" not actual worth of all the properties owned. Book value is at the price purchased (like in the 70'S) when actual value puts us as a solvent Local in the green. What happens if the next LM-2 shows improvement then what crisis will you make up? Here is the bottom line you and your reformers cry on the internet but lost in 2010 and 2013. In 2013 you came in last in a 3 dog race. We all know you have been reduced to acting big on the internet in some kind of "wizard of Oz" complex instead of doing something good for the teamsters. Sorry to draw back the curtain and expose YOU but realbrown1 you are the fraud.

That -$410,000.00 is the number K reported to the Dept. Of Labor in 952's end of year financial report that all unions must file.

Do you think K was lying on that report?

That's a serious allegation that even us reformers haven't made....yet.

 

[realbrown1]

Steward election in Laguna why don't you reformers all put your money where your mouth is and run. Ha ha ha ha ha! What a joke you guys are!

Do you have anything against the 2 gentlemen who are running?

Both are outstanding teamsters and upsers.

I don't get you LB.

We run, and you attack us for running.

We don't run, you blast us for not running.

Maybe you are just a disgruntled former reformer?

 

[Lead Belly]

Do you have anything against the 2 gentlemen who are running?

Both are outstanding teamsters and upsers.

I don't get you LB.

We run, and you attack us for running.

We don't run, you blast us for not running.

Maybe you are just a disgruntled former reformer?

Maybe that high five to the head concussed you to the point that you can't make rational statements.

 

[The Silent Bang]

We personally I deal with members seniority, harassment, Deaths, Divorce, Drug/alcohol addiction, Healthcare and a host of other issues daily. When I call my BA they get back to me right away and help to provide the valuable reputation to the membership in my craft which in turn makes a stronger local. We have had numerous termination return to work and thousands of dollars paid through the grievance procedure this year. All the proof you need is right there and you can ask those BA to show grievance settlements to you if you want to get embarrassed. Why you lying on the internet bro?

You really believe we have a strong local ?? What do you believe makes a stronger local? Do you even know what a strong local is?
Why do we only have a few dozen members at our local membership meetings? Do we have to bribe members to attend meetings with free food? Why do we have members at the locals doors demanding removal of certain BA's? Maybe you should attend a Local 396 or 63 meeting, then maybe you'd know what a strong local is. And what reason would i have to lie about our local?? I've said it before, you live in a brown bubble and everything outside of that bubble is foreign to you.. You should venture out and start speaking to our members in other crafts, you drive around all day, you ever run into a Coke driver, Pepsi, Albertsons, straub or freight drivers? Ask them about their representation with our local. Your problem is you don't care about anything else but UPS.
Open your eyes laguna and start asking around!

 

[Bubblehead]

That -$410,000.00 is the number K reported to the Dept. Of Labor in 952's end of year financial report that all unions must file.

Do you think K was lying on that report?

That's a serious allegation that even us reformers haven't made....yet.

Who is loaning this local money if this is the case?
I don't understand how this can be.
Who do they think they are, the government?

 

[LagunaBrown]

You really believe we have a strong local ?? What do you believe makes a stronger local? Do you even know what a strong local is?
Why do we only have a few dozen members at our local membership meetings? Do we have to bribe members to attend meetings with free food? Why do we have members at the locals doors demanding removal of certain BA's? Maybe you should attend a Local 396 or 63 meeting, then maybe you'd know what a strong local is. And what reason would i have to lie about our local?? I've said it before, you live in a brown bubble and nothing everything outside of that bubble is foreign to you.. You should venture out and start speaking to our members in other crafts, you drive around all day, you ever run into a Coke driver, Pepsi, Albertsons, straub or freight drivers? Ask them about their representation with our local. Your problem is you don't care about anything else but UPS.
Open your eyes laguna and start asking around!

Yup I am in brown bubble and take care of my business and peeps first before I worry about the other crafts, agents or locals. If you got a problem at your barn then you should look in the mirror before you go to your computer in the morning. Why don't you go to local 63 or 396. Im sure they would love you. They got lots of cry baby openings in available if you want to transfer.

 

[The Silent Bang]

Yup I am in brown bubble and take care of my business and peeps first before I worry about the other crafts, agents or locals. If you got a problem at your barn then you should look in the mirror before you go to your computer in the morning. Why don't you go to local 63 or 396. Im sure they would love you. They got lots of cry baby openings in available if you want to transfer.

ha ha ha ha ha!! Of course you'd say that... Burry your head in the sand is the Local 952 moto!!

 

[The Silent Bang]

Yup I am in brown bubble and take care of my business and peeps first before I worry about the other crafts, agents or locals. If you got a problem at your barn then you should look in the mirror before you go to your computer in the morning. Why don't you go to local 63 or 396. Im sure they would love you. They got lots of cry baby openings in available if you want to transfer.

And this is why you will never be anything in our union.. Because you could care less about anyone or anything else...
If i look at myself in the mirror what will i see laguna? Someone who cares about our local and our members as a whole and wants change because our current leaders are useless and don't care about members?

 

[LagunaBrown]

Who is loaning this local money if this is the case?
I don't understand how this can be.
Who do they think they are, the government?

Who do you think you are? An economist? How nice, please explain to Realbrown1 the difference between book value and actual value so he knows. (His comprehension is pretty bad).