UPS and Teamsters Discuss Two-Tier Wages, Sunday Deliveries---WSJ

[Chester]

Many of the younger drivers have a spouse that works on the weekends until they get top rate. Child care isn't cheap.

Yea imagine working somewhere where you had to pay for your insurance, be thankful for what we have. I’ll take that $10 copay all day long.

 

[DOK]

How exactly do you or drivers in your center get harassed? Where I’m at we punch in, work, then go home.

Well to name a few just off the top of my head.

Production numbers harassment. Pulled into the office twice a week to be questioned about our day and methods.

Harassment/production rides. 1 day and 3 days. Even though we grieve it.

Telematics harassment daily. How many times you back, back first, seatbelt, bulkhead door, ext..

It must be your area or whatever I don’t know, they never mention production here, at least to the drivers. It’s all safety stuff. What telematics elements do they key on in your area? Whenever they bring that up I reply, we still doing telematics? ‍️

 

[DOK]

I reread your post and saw what you said abt telematics, they’re hot on those issues here as well. Generally though we do pretty good on those elements. We have a few routes that back ZERO, and a few that back under 5 times.

 

[1989]

It must be your area or whatever I don’t know, they never mention production here, at least to the drivers. It’s all safety stuff. What telematics elements do they key on in your area? Whenever they bring that up I reply, we still doing telematics? ‍️

In 2013 I got a performance ride on the 7A because I was the highest over allowed the day before. I did the 2B the day before. It was the 3rd time I’ve done the 2B. It changed about 70% since the last time I did it 4 months prior.... that’s why I’m striking.

 

[Chester]

In 2013 I got a performance ride on the 7A because I was the highest over allowed the day before. I did the 2B the day before. It was the 3rd time I’ve done the 2B. It changed about 70% since the last time I did it 4 months prior.... that’s why I’m striking.

How long have you been FT?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yea imagine working somewhere where you had to pay for your insurance, be thankful for what we have. I’ll take that $10 copay all day long.

Zero pay health care has always been part of the job. One of the perks.

 

[1989]

How long have you been FT?

23 years, so I’m still a rookie.

 

[Chester]

Zero pay health care has always been part of the job. One of the perks.

Yes I’m aware, my point was to go try and find a job that pays this well with free insurance. Some don’t know how good they have it.

 

[Jones]

They already forced a sixth punch during peak.

I know, that's why I brought it up.

 

[Chester]

23 years, so I’m still a rookie.

What exactly do you think a strike will accomplish?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Yes I’m aware, my point was to go try and find a job that pays this well with free insurance. Some don’t know how good they have it.

I'm not daysay we don't have it good in somethings, I'm just not willing to give up what we have .

 

[Chester]

I'm not daysay we don't have it good in somethings, I'm just not willing to give up what we have .

What will we be giving up? UPS operations are out of the unions hands, 70 hour workweek I would vote down unless it had clause we could deny without discipline.

 

[1989]

What exactly do you think a strike will accomplish?

Displace many workers.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

What will we be giving up? UPS operations are out of the unions hands, 70 hour workweek I would vote down unless it had clause we could deny without discipline.

70 hours is too much in package

 

[Chester]

Displace many workers.

And many with families who will quickly realize the made a huge mistake by voting no. I’m not saying UPS is great but do you think anywhere else is better?

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Why is everyone so worked up over this now? Feeders and hub sorts already run 7 days a week with no premium pay.

I was making $46/hr Sundays, with $75+/hr over 10 hours.

 

[Chester]

70 hours is too much in package

Yes I agree

 

[1989]

70 hours is too much in package

Is 70 hours in 8 days, much different than 60 hours in 7 days? You may find you are already working 70 hours.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

What you say you agree with or disagree with for my post is somewhat hilarious. I didn't give you a stance either way.

I think the part timers need to start off at fifteen an hour and get there benefits in six months instead of a year. I think we need to Figure out how we are going to be a seven day delivery company in a way thats fair while not turning UPS package into a loser compared to the rest of the portfolio. I also think we need to maintain the benefits with a possibility of them getting even better, all while not paying for them. I think when this contract is negotiated these things will be addressed. Maybe not like everyone wants, but sometimes you can't make everyone happy.

What you said,is not giving a stance? Then what IS? Were you drunk and high when you posted that? I'm not "judging" or being presumptuous !

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Is 70 hours in 8 days, much different than 60 hours in 7 days? You may find you are already working 70 hours.

They could work you 6 11+ hours a day, just a long as you get your 34 hour reset, the click starts all over again.