UPS: masks required again, based on CDC map

To play devil’s advocate,(i did sell my soul right?), if you’re gonna make a stand , it probably only counts if the people you are making a stand against know you are making a stand and they wont know if you present to them a fake-card.

So the fake card is going to prevent negative consequences ? What happens when a fake card will no longer work? Or even worse, what happens if there are penalties associated with presenting a falsified vaccination card?

Wait until having a COVID vaccination is part and parcel of getting a renewed DOT medical card? Are you going to take the shot then or lose your job?

Obviously, I am in sympathy with your position but I have to calculate the probabilities including that of the availability of the vaccine that it took me a while to figure out where to get . Maybe a month from now, it would be no longer available and then I would have to make a decision between my job and putting a mRNA vaccine in my arm.

I could go on in general that unless you are a
Self professed sovereign citizen with no plates on your vehicle that you have been appeasing them for a long time now .
It’s true that a long list of abuses and usurpations has gone on for some time. But This is the line in the sand for a lot of people. I know it is for me
 

Cowboy Mac

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I have a theory about why Carol brought back the masks. I believe Corporate UPS is wishing for another lockdown. Think about how much they profited from the first Covid lockdown.

Think back to last year, what happened before the lockdowns? They pushed mask mandates and the media spread fear about hospitalization which scared people into wanting to stay home and order crap.
 

I have been lurking

Tired hubrat
I have a theory about why Carol brought back the masks. I believe Corporate UPS is wishing for another lockdown. Think about how much they profited from the first Covid lockdown.

Think back to last year, what happened before the lockdowns? They pushed mask mandates and the media spread fear about hospitalization which scared people into wanting to stay home and order crap.
Had some real nice PT checks so I'm OK with it
 

hellfire

no one considers UPS people."real" Teamsters.-BUG
The guy's trolling. He realized he made a terrible mistake, and he doesn't want anyone else to be around to say "I told you so". FYI, only 25000 more died in the US than what was projected for 2020. It’s true that a long list of abuses and usurpations has gone on for some time. But This is the line in the sand for a lot of people. I know it is for me
You show em tough guy. Your gonna make a real difference.. Lol
 
I have a theory about why Carol brought back the masks. I believe Corporate UPS is wishing for another lockdown. Think about how much they profited from the first Covid lockdown.

Think back to last year, what happened before the lockdowns? They pushed mask mandates and the media spread fear about hospitalization which scared people into wanting to stay home and order crap.
Of course they want another lockdown. They will turn this on and off in perpetuity like a light switch. That is the great reset. You will go nowhere. You will own nothing. And you’ll be happy
 
What’s the end game for this subjugation? Masks for life? A society of faceless mindless robots? You gotta admit this whole episode would make for an interesting albeit predictable television series
 

Cowboy Mac

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It’s only overrun in blue areas. Wonder why that could be
It’s overrun because hospitals laid off so many workers that now they are understaffed. Now they can’t get qualified people back in the door because they went to work in other industries.

It’s the same thing that happened in the airline industry. They laid off a bunch of pilots and crew now the airlines are overwhelmed.
 
It’s overrun because hospitals laid off so many workers that now they are understaffed. Now they can’t get qualified people back in the door because they went to work in other industries.

It’s the same thing that happened in the airline industry. They laid off a bunch of pilots and crew now the airlines are overwhelmed.
They laid off people during the worst pandemic the world has ever seen? Surely they’d need everyone ?
 

Cowboy Mac

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They laid off people during the worst pandemic the world has ever seen? Surely they’d need everyone ?
After Covid #1 slowed down, they didn’t need them anymore. Thus the layoffs. Add to that hospitalization rates in general go down in the summer. We will see them tick back up in the coming months. That’s every year.
 
Let’s see here. The only ones wearing mask are center mangers and supervisors( excluding pre-loaders and their supervisors) hardly anyone is wearing a mask including me. This isn’t the movie I Am Legend or Resident Evil, it’s beyond ridiculous at this point
At my building they’ve threatened that you could be fired immediately. Whether you would get a panel hearing is the great unknown. Of course everyone just wears them on their chin and it’s totally unsanitary and pointless but somehow that’s fine
 

Cowboy Mac

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At my building they’ve threatened that you could be fired. Whether you would get a panel hearing is the great unknown
In my center, 70% of drivers don’t wear one. Only one ORS and the center manager wear them and the center manager only does it because he has to. Everybody here knows it BS.
 
In my center, 70% of drivers don’t wear one. Only one ORS and the center manager wear them and the center manager only does it because he has to. Everybody here knows it BS.
I’ve seen plenty of people not have them. But because I’ve been dead set against it from the beginning and I’ve made that clear and I’m willing to expose the lie there’s a target on my back. It’s not fair but that’s how it is
 

MyTripisCut

Never bought my own handtruck
I’ve seen plenty of people not have them. But because I’ve been dead set against it from the beginning and I’ve made that clear and I’m willing to expose the lie there’s a target on my back. It’s not fair but that’s how it is
Life ain’t fair.
 
Life ain’t fair.
What I really would like to know is if you could be fired immediately for something that’s not in the CBA. Maybe someone can enlighten me on this. I guess they could play the refusal to work as directed card but that’s a pretty slippery slope given that most directives from ups sups are ridiculous and unsafe
 
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