LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
Lol.... I put you in check wait .
UPS Uprising at Local 952!
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Lol.... I put you in check wait .
...and that's why you'll never get elected.
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
BTW I'm sorry for implying you and your reformers were employee that work at a circus that I can't say because you complained to this site but I hope you don't drop names any more. See how simple that is..... I didn't have to got to a moderator or the NLRB or any where else. Try going to your local and calling them out cause I heard you were quiet as a mouse at the local compared to you windy rants on brown cafe.
Hawfuh Sux
Old Guard Assassin!
When 952 held the contract meeting word got out that it turned into a ruckus and people wanted to burn the hall down. I heard there was a lot of animosity directed at P and G directly. Every shop steward was upset, with the exception of one.
That one was ***. But its also known that once PK retires and GM emerges as his successor he will hire *** as his business agent. The word had it was between him and EJ, but EJ has balled up and challenged PK and GM now.
In the 2010 Local 952 election only 2,436 people voted out of a membership of about 8,800.
Kelly-Hahn Slate received 1,181
Reform 952 Slate 446
Member Run Slate 422
You can bet that P will not reach 1,000 votes, not after Anaheim which was their strong hold has splintered from him. PK wont carry Laguna and OCTA almost decertified a couple months ago.
UPS Freight wants nothing to do with P, YRC got kicked out of the Western Conference Pension Fund and Grocery has never supported the local. All of the previous slates had come out of grocery until Reform 952 came out of UPS.
Mark my words, those 868 votes that went for the two opposing slates will only increase and P will not reach 1000.
How did that meeting held by the opposing slate go today?
Last I heard was that Member Run Slate has two Albertsons people running with the Anaheim Slate and one OCTA steward at least.
That one was ***. But its also known that once PK retires and GM emerges as his successor he will hire *** as his business agent. The word had it was between him and EJ, but EJ has balled up and challenged PK and GM now.
In the 2010 Local 952 election only 2,436 people voted out of a membership of about 8,800.
Kelly-Hahn Slate received 1,181
Reform 952 Slate 446
Member Run Slate 422
You can bet that P will not reach 1,000 votes, not after Anaheim which was their strong hold has splintered from him. PK wont carry Laguna and OCTA almost decertified a couple months ago.
UPS Freight wants nothing to do with P, YRC got kicked out of the Western Conference Pension Fund and Grocery has never supported the local. All of the previous slates had come out of grocery until Reform 952 came out of UPS.
Mark my words, those 868 votes that went for the two opposing slates will only increase and P will not reach 1000.
How did that meeting held by the opposing slate go today?
Last I heard was that Member Run Slate has two Albertsons people running with the Anaheim Slate and one OCTA steward at least.
ITG, that's only one reason. Lol
Hawfuh Sux
Old Guard Assassin!
The Anaheim Slate started campaigning on Monday.
Kelly is very worried and is praying to the lord a third slate appears and splits the vote.
Kelly is very worried and is praying to the lord a third slate appears and splits the vote.
Mark Rauzon
Member
Just like he was worried about you last election. You're fantasy world never ceases to amaze me.
Here's the difference Mark, this ISNT the last election. This is today, on the heels of a horrible contract for the southwest. 952 is the first southwest local to hold an election "post" contract proposal.
The mood of the members is alot different now. Once the pain of this contract is felt by the members, the mood will definitely change.
Someone will have to be held responsible for this P.O.S. contract.
952 will either make a change, or stick with the people who "assisted" in screwing them. If they keep the same people, then they deserve the representation and outcome that has presented itself in this years contract negotiations.
In the last election, there was NO horrible contract hanging over their heads.
There is no fantasy in assigning blame. Our local leaders had an obligation to protect us as dues paying members. The southwest leaders screwed us all and the members are extremely upset.
I wouldnt maintain such a high degree of confidence when the Master, Rider and Supplemental was voted down by an 80% margin in the west.
Peace
TOS
LagunaBrown
Well-Known Member
That's a lot of babble. Why don't you wait till you find out more about the MOU. Remember the one you said cant get done cause there was not enough time. Hmmmmmmm
Anonymous 10
Guest
You are such a Me-ster. Not only are you crazy but you only care about your region. You accused us of this but this is your true color. Congratulations
Catatonic
Nine Lives
BigUnionGuy
Got the T-Shirt
If TOS exudes this type of attitude and opinions around the other members....
He (or she) couldn't get elected dog catcher.
-Bug-
This is just the beginning of their B S.
I have worked for UPS now for 15 years pt. Local 957 is my home. We are working now what seams to be good faith agreement. When asked by our local what we wanted on this contract. Our poles stated, insurance to be left alone. The local nor the international listen to its members. The locals power comes from BIG BROWN an all of its work force. We must not listen anymore to the BS they are telling its members. If Hoffa an Hall want to remain leaders of men reopen the master to protect what we have. First by remembering
The international an the locals work for its members. Don't forget what was said to us not 9cents or 99cents. Our leaders as well as other stables in the locals don't have the same benefits so why would they think they know what we have an what we are giving up. Remember their actions an words in the next election on both sides of our so called protection. That way let's hope we will stop hearing their BS
I have worked for UPS now for 15 years pt. Local 957 is my home. We are working now what seams to be good faith agreement. When asked by our local what we wanted on this contract. Our poles stated, insurance to be left alone. The local nor the international listen to its members. The locals power comes from BIG BROWN an all of its work force. We must not listen anymore to the BS they are telling its members. If Hoffa an Hall want to remain leaders of men reopen the master to protect what we have. First by remembering
The international an the locals work for its members. Don't forget what was said to us not 9cents or 99cents. Our leaders as well as other stables in the locals don't have the same benefits so why would they think they know what we have an what we are giving up. Remember their actions an words in the next election on both sides of our so called protection. That way let's hope we will stop hearing their BS
island1fox
Well-Known Member
How so many people --as old Jack Nicholson once said , "You can't handle the truth"
Hoffa made huge mistakes by trusting in and supporting "Obamacare" He did not understand the ramifications Obamacare would have on Cadillac healthcare plans.
Hoffa and Hall were "educated" on the realities during negotiations.
It is the B.S . we got from our President Obama who stated many times "If you like your present healthcare -no problem --you can keep it. What he failed to tell you --you can keep it if you pay 40% to 50% MORE for it ---so you can pay for many others that are lazy and would never work as hard as you do.
Don't give me the poor and helpless crap --they were always covered by Medicaid and the Seniors by Medicare before all this nonsense --everyday a new dispensation or rollout problem.
Now after "knowing whats in it" Hoffa and other Union leaders send a letter to Obama stating that Obamacare will hurt the working middle class ----and still we see denial on this thread --as some people will hang on to "their" politicians and claim that "Hoffa only signed the letter --he did not write it " What the hell does that mean ?????
People are also waiting for Hoffa to give them more information ------??? ---ask Obama !!!!
Elections do have very real consequences !!
Hoffa made huge mistakes by trusting in and supporting "Obamacare" He did not understand the ramifications Obamacare would have on Cadillac healthcare plans.
Hoffa and Hall were "educated" on the realities during negotiations.
It is the B.S . we got from our President Obama who stated many times "If you like your present healthcare -no problem --you can keep it. What he failed to tell you --you can keep it if you pay 40% to 50% MORE for it ---so you can pay for many others that are lazy and would never work as hard as you do.
Don't give me the poor and helpless crap --they were always covered by Medicaid and the Seniors by Medicare before all this nonsense --everyday a new dispensation or rollout problem.
Now after "knowing whats in it" Hoffa and other Union leaders send a letter to Obama stating that Obamacare will hurt the working middle class ----and still we see denial on this thread --as some people will hang on to "their" politicians and claim that "Hoffa only signed the letter --he did not write it " What the hell does that mean ?????
People are also waiting for Hoffa to give them more information ------??? ---ask Obama !!!!
Elections do have very real consequences !!Re: This is just the beginning of their B S.
You did hear that the National Agreement passed right? So why should they illegally "open" an agreement that was passed by a majority of members?
Hawfuh Sux
Old Guard Assassin!
It was passed, not ratified. And with the Southwest and Local 89 being in limbo this contract is very far from being ratified.
Thanks chief but I got that part. That's the point. The National TA has been accepted by the majority of the voting members. No reason to illegally re-open an agreement that, once again, THE MAJORITY of voters passed. Voting no on the supplements won't change the Master and it will be imposed. The IBT is not striking over this, they won't sanction a strike by L89 and the west won't vote to strike anyway. Hoffa might suck but life will go on.
BrownBrokeDown
Well-Known Member
This says it all. I voted no. I was on the losing end. I just have to live with it.
But you like beer which means you're not on the losing end of anything...
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