USA! USA! USA! Proud again?

[Catatonic]

I have been saying the exact same thing for months to a Coworker. How much it reminds me of what I have read on Hitler and his beer hall rally's

Oh Geez ... you had to use the "Hitler" reference?
I know you can do better with your massive vocabulary!

 

[wkmac]

 

[rickyb]

I remember in high school and college, nationalism was taught as a main contributor to those 2 WW's.
As I was watching Trump tonight (on MSNBC), it struck me in a weird way with Trump at the podium with the crowd chanting USA.
It was eerily reminiscent of the 1930's in Europe.

look the out if another terror attack or financial crisis happens. that may be the sad end to US democracy.

difference between pre nazi germany and modern america is you can at least have history to look back on.

 

[BrownArmy]

Trump's giving a speech in Nashville and the crowd sounds more like a Davis Cup match chanting "USA".
Is Nationalism still OK after 2 World Wars?
Has 8 years made that much difference?

Did it only take 8 years to forget what it was like to be proud of your country?

You seem (oddly) surprised by this turn of events.

What did you think would happen?

 

[Catatonic]

look the out if another terror attack or financial crisis happens. that may be the sad end to US democracy.

difference between pre nazi germany and modern america is you can at least have history to look back on.

I thought of exactly that!
The National US Government debt is $20 Trillion and growing ... a perfect recipe for the fall of the US National Government.

The Southern States of America does have a chance!

 

[TearsInRain]

I get your point, I just have a problem with the word we.
They might deserve it, but I'm not a part of that group.

you're an American aren't you? democrats and republicans are both American, fyi

 

[Turdferguson]

Oh Geez ... you had to use the "Hitler" reference?
I know you can do better with your massive vocabulary!

A message of nationalistic pride, that uses a ethnic minority as the "boogeyman ", and appeals to the common man. If it quacks like a duck , walks like a duck ,then more than likely it is a duck

 

[wkmac]

you're an American aren't you? democrats and republicans are both American, fyi

@DriveInDriveOut You are forced into the collective whether you want to be in the collective or not!

Collectivism is not right or left, it is both and all at the same time. Made worse when you not only have to fear the State but fear the members of the collective itself. Gangsterism wrapped in nationalistic colors that sez this is the Gang's turf and thus you will bend to the will of the Gang.

 

[newfie]

I saw a Women for Trump sign today.

Ugh, how can you be that stupid.

they liked Bill Clinton , you should have gotten that question answered by now.

 

[newfie]

A message of nationalistic pride, that uses a ethnic minority as the "boogeyman ", and appeals to the common man. If it quacks like a duck , walks like a duck ,then more than likely it is a duck

lets see:
1)message of nationalistic pride - employed by every president?
2) ethic minority as the boogeyman - you're referring to radical Islamic terrorist? and ignoring the liberal attack on the Christian "boogeyman" we live with every day?
3)appeals to the common man - sounds like someone is experiencing a moment of superiority. the thrust of the liberal attack on the trump supporter has been to denigrate them into being from some lower class of citizenry. Thus my favorite example where the blue collar worker suddenly became the uneducated worker in various forms.

This is in its form is classic snowflakeism to somehow deal with the loss of your beloved Russian paid for server hiding server dusting coverup queen dear wonderful Hillary Clinton you over emphasize the threat the winning candidate poses to the free world and you denigrate the folks who voted for him.
In so doing you alas also overstate your own understanding of politics as if some form probably not god since you are not capable of god or the morals that come with a belief in our diety , you none the less have been gifted with some superior intellect that allows you to look down on the rest of us with disdain and scorn. And like the little child sitting up all night staring with fear at the closet across the room you will someday discover that there was no bogeyman and the closet was just a closet and nothing else.

 

[It will be fine]

lets see:
1)message of nationalistic pride - employed by every president?
2) ethic minority as the boogeyman - you're referring to radical Islamic terrorist? and ignoring the liberal attack on the Christian "boogeyman" we live with every day?
3)appeals to the common man - sounds like someone is experiencing a moment of superiority. the thrust of the liberal attack on the trump supporter has been to denigrate them into being from some lower class of citizenry. Thus my favorite example where the blue collar worker suddenly became the uneducated worker in various forms.

This is in its form is classic snowflakeism to somehow deal with the loss of your beloved Russian paid for server hiding server dusting coverup queen dear wonderful Hillary Clinton you over emphasize the threat the winning candidate poses to the free world and you denigrate the folks who voted for him.
In so doing you alas also overstate your own understanding of politics as if some form probably not god since you are not capable of god or the morals that come with a belief in our diety , you none the less have been gifted with some superior intellect that allows you to look down on the rest of us with disdain and scorn. And like the little child sitting up all night staring with fear at the closet across the room you will someday discover that there was no bogeyman and the closet was just a closet and nothing else.

Lack of higher education was the number one indicator of the Trump voter. I'm not sure how he fits in your view of godliness. He's had 3 wives and brags about sexual assault, besides the whole easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven.
How can you look at the AHCA and still believe he cares about working people?

 

[newfie]

Lack of higher education was the number one indicator of the Trump voter. I'm not sure how he fits in your view of godliness. He's had 3 wives and brags about sexual assault, besides the whole easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than a rich man enter heaven.
How can you look at the AHCA and still believe he cares about working people?

1) and your point is what? The lack of higher education has become a point of elitism for the liberals as they look for their participation trophy.
2) your point about trump's morals Is an interesting one considering liberals routinely demonize the morals of Christians. did your liberals suddenly discover religion?
3) did you think your selection of Crooked Hillary and all her issues somehow gives you a higher moral standing then Trump? that's crazy.

so now we see words like Nazism thrown around. you folks want to have your little snowflake moment and not participate and not support our current president. to do so you have to demonize the guy to the degree that you feel you can justify being non participants. So words like Nazi are used. when many of you do not understand the word. do not understand the seriousness of the situation the last time the word was actually used in reference to a real political situation. Do not realize how you now water down a time when Nazism was real by continuing to use the word each and every time you have a political leader you do not like. you used the word with Bush and now you use it with Trump.
will you be the one to stop the hissy fit and finally get on board or can we expect an 8 year temper tantrum from you too?

 

[It will be fine]

1) and your point is what? The lack of higher education has become a point of elitism for the liberals as they look for their participation trophy.
2) your point about trump's morals Is an interesting one considering liberals routinely demonize the morals of Christians. did your liberals suddenly discover religion?

The point about morals is to demonstrate the hypocrisy of the religious right. How quickly they abandon those principles if it lets them "win." You can't talk about how important god is to you while supporting someone that completely lacks any moral principles.

 

[newfie]

The point about morals is to demonstrate the hypocrisy of the religious right. How quickly they abandon those principles if it lets them "win." You can't talk about how important god is to you while supporting someone that completely lacks any moral principles.

did you say hypocrisy? this is how your liberals protested Trumps comments in the video

 

[newfie]

perhaps your liberals were offended by Trumps comments in the video? Their response? keep in mind as you know that their were many children at this march.

Judd -(to Trump )your daughter being your favorite sex symbol, like your wet dreams infused with your own genes

Madonna - “And to our detractors that insist that this march will never add up to anything: friend–k you. friend–k you.

Fonda - Trump should have more respect for pusillanimous because if penises could do what pusillanimous could do they’d be on postage stamps… A lot of people are scared of ‘pusillanimous power.’

what ever high ground your movement had was lost when you allowed those speakers on the stage.

 

[TearsInRain]

@newfie there is nothing wrong with impeding a president if his policies will negatively affect the majority of the country

nazi name calling and social justice crap aside, his economic/tax proposals are total garbage

 

[Babagounj]

New York Assemblyman Unveils Bill To Suppress Non-Government-Approved Free Speech | Zero Hedge

In a bill aimed at securing a "right to be forgotten," introduced by Assemblyman David I. Weprin and (as Senate Bill 4561 by state Sen. Tony Avella), liberal New York politicians would require people to remove ‘inaccurate,’ ‘irrelevant,’ ‘inadequate’ or ‘excessive’ statements about others...

• Within 30 days of a ”request from an individual,”
• “all search engines and online speakers] shall remove … content about such individual, and links or indexes to any of the same, that is ‘inaccurate’, ‘irrelevant’, ‘inadequate’ or ‘excessive,’ ”
• “and without replacing such removed … content with any disclaimer [or] takedown notice.”
• “ ‘naccurate’, ‘irrelevant’, ‘inadequate’, or ‘excessive’ shall mean content,”
  [*]“which after a significant lapse in time from its first publication,”
  [*]“is no longer material to current public debate or discourse,”
  [*]“especially when considered in light of the financial, reputational and/or demonstrable other harm that the information … is causing to the requester’s professional, financial, reputational or other interest,”
  [*]“with the exception of content related to convicted felonies, legal matters relating to violence, or a matter that is of significant current public interest, and as to which the requester’s role with regard to the matter is central and substantial.”
  

Failure to comply would make the search engines or speakers liable for, at least, statutory damages of $250/day plus attorney fees.

But the deeper problem with the bill is simply that it aims to censor what people say, under a broad, vague test based on what the government thinks the public should or shouldn’t be discussing. It is clearly unconstitutional under current First Amendment law, and I hope First Amendment law will stay that way (no matter what rules other countries might have adopted).

 

[newfie]

@newfie there is nothing wrong with impeding a president if his policies will negatively affect the majority of the country

nazi name calling and social justice crap aside, his economic/tax proposals are total garbage

OK so you believe you should pay your hard earned tax money to pay the government to do nothing. got it.

 

[moreluck]

did you say hypocrisy? this is how your liberals protested Trumps comments in the video

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How do you explain your costume to your kids??

 

[newfie]

New York Assemblyman Unveils Bill To Suppress Non-Government-Approved Free Speech | Zero Hedge

In a bill aimed at securing a "right to be forgotten," introduced by Assemblyman David I. Weprin and (as Senate Bill 4561 by state Sen. Tony Avella), liberal New York politicians would require people to remove ‘inaccurate,’ ‘irrelevant,’ ‘inadequate’ or ‘excessive’ statements about others...

• Within 30 days of a ”request from an individual,”
• “all search engines and online speakers] shall remove … content about such individual, and links or indexes to any of the same, that is ‘inaccurate’, ‘irrelevant’, ‘inadequate’ or ‘excessive,’ ”
• “and without replacing such removed … content with any disclaimer [or] takedown notice.”
• “ ‘naccurate’, ‘irrelevant’, ‘inadequate’, or ‘excessive’ shall mean content,”
  [*]“which after a significant lapse in time from its first publication,”
  [*]“is no longer material to current public debate or discourse,”
  [*]“especially when considered in light of the financial, reputational and/or demonstrable other harm that the information … is causing to the requester’s professional, financial, reputational or other interest,”
  [*]“with the exception of content related to convicted felonies, legal matters relating to violence, or a matter that is of significant current public interest, and as to which the requester’s role with regard to the matter is central and substantial.”

Failure to comply would make the search engines or speakers liable for, at least, statutory damages of $250/day plus attorney fees.

But the deeper problem with the bill is simply that it aims to censor what people say, under a broad, vague test based on what the government thinks the public should or shouldn’t be discussing. It is clearly unconstitutional under current First Amendment law, and I hope First Amendment law will stay that way (no matter what rules other countries might have adopted).

and creates a highly litiginous process that will employ many more in the legal profession.