VOTE "YES"

[PT Car Washer]

Well everywhere is different. I can't speak for your area but we get plenty of good drivers from the PT ranks. Sorry to hear it's so dismal where you are.

We have used up everyone that wants to drive and are now trying to qualify the DQ 1's. Some have made it on the second try. Have not seen any 3rd try yet. The FT driving job sucks and with Saturday it sucks even more. Just put in one more route and it would be tolerable.

 

[Brownslave688]

At the UPS meeting put on by JC42 here in the West, there was probably like 20 people. Everyone knows that we never stood a chance. We are negotiating against UPS and the IBT. Look at what happened to every leader on the negotiating committee who objected, Taylor kicked them out

If we don't stand a chance it's because of trash like you who aren't willing to stand up. Can you imagine how terrible our working conditions would be had previous generations of teamsters been as weak as you.

Stand up. Go to your local meetings on this contract. Let your BA know this agreement is totally unacceptable and it's going down harder than @MyTripisCut sister on a guy wearing Armani. Let them know they better be prepared to make some serious changes because if a few words get changed and they bring the same trash back we will send it back in flames again.

People like you make me sick.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Although they might think that, I would like to see the shell of the company that once was after they have to replace 200,000 workers.

It would take them so long to replace experienced drivers with untrained newbies that the company would lose 75% of their business before they got the new drivers up to speed on all routes. They also don't have enough management in place to oversee the training of so many people at one time.

Suffice it to say that you should really consider more of the facts when you make such a grandiose statement.

"Facts" just get in the way of his pro-company rhetoric.
is just another dragon troll trying to win the Tokyo Rose award.

 

[PT Car Washer]

Can you imagine how terrible our working conditions would be had previous generations of teamsters been as weak as you.

I believe your working conditions are as terrible because the previous generation of Teamsters have been weak. Starting with the two tier PT wage in 1982.

 

[zubenelgenubi]

You aren’t getting a better deal. Stop running from ghosts.

I was simply comisserating with a brother. I do, however, keep a list of everyone who has screwed me out of $10k or more. It's longer than you might think. I'm pretty easy going though, I forget about anything under that. Don't know what I'll end up doing with the information, except not trust the people on the list, I guess.

The 22.4 was created to do the work on Saturday and protect 5 consecutive M-friend workweek schedule for RPCD's that no one wanted and now your saying you want it back the way it was.

I would have jumped at the chance to work a t-s schedule if it meant going full time sooner. How many drivers are on a t-s schedule? How many of them have actually complained? I have no idea on numbers, but I can't believe it's more than 20k on a t-s schedule, and, being generous, I'll assume that 80% are unhappy working Saturday. That means the union cares so much about those 16k drivers that they are willing to devalue the labor of all ground drivers. Makes sense to me... Or, they are just making up a scapegoat.

 

[BrownRecycler]

It's all a meat grinder at UPS

At least we can both agree to let the impure material boils itself or learn to adapt instead of forcing other who already adapt to stoop to their level. If isn't the seniority that making them to do less, it is probably the lack of productivity.

 

[sandwich]

Thank you. I do appreciate that you guys are just trying to look out for us newbies. It's just hard because I'm so desperate for full time. Sigh....

Voting in 22.4's will prolong your quest to rpcd by years. I came from a building that had temporary cover drivers. The wait for rpcd was a couple months shy of a decade.

 

[SoCalUPS]

If we don't stand a chance it's because of trash like you who aren't willing to stand up. Can you imagine how terrible our working conditions would be had previous generations of teamsters been as weak as you.

Stand up. Go to your local meetings on this contract. Let your BA know this agreement is totally unacceptable and it's going down harder than @MyTripisCut sister on a guy wearing Armani. Let them know they better be prepared to make some serious changes because if a few words get changed and they bring the same trash back we will send it back in flames again.

People like you make me sick.

My post is sarcasm, I'm voting Efffff "NO"

 

[zubenelgenubi]

My post is sarcasm, I'm voting Efffff "NO"

Maybe a mod will let you add that disclaimer to the original post.

 

[Hannah-banana]

I'm taking all of your feedback to heart. I will consider my vote very carefully. I respect and appreciate all of you

 

[Grey]

Is it true that every RPCD is 9.5 eligible if the contract goes thru?

 

[Brownslave688]

My post is sarcasm, I'm voting Efffff "NO"

Yeah I noticed you said that after you got bashed for the first 8 replies. Lol

 

[542thruNthru]

Is it true that every RPCD is 9.5 eligible if the contract goes thru?

Only if you have 22.4 working in your building. If you do not have a Saturday ground delivery then you will not have 22.4s.

 

[Grey]

Only if you have 22.4 working in your building. If you do not have a Saturday ground delivery then you will not have 22.4s.

We’ll have 22.4’s. I heard today everyone is 9.5 starting Jan 15th and you have to opt-out if you don’t want to be on it.

 

[SoCalUPS]

Yeah I noticed you said that after you got bashed for the first 8 replies. Lol

If you read any earlier threads, you will see that Ive been a vote "No" since the beginning

 

[542thruNthru]

We’ll have 22.4’s. I heard today everyone is 9.5 starting Jan 15th and you have to opt-out if you don’t want to be on it.

The contract hasn't passed yet. If it does pass then yes you would be asked on Jan15th if you want on 9.5 or not.

 

[Grey]

The contract hasn't passed yet. If it does pass then yes you would be asked on Jan15th if you want on 9.5 or not.

Well they’re going to sway the under-4 year vote with this. No more green light on our DIAD before my last stop.

 

[MyTripisCut]

Well they’re going to sway the under-4 year vote with this. No more green light on our DIAD before my last stop.

It also won’t happen as often, since you will only be working Wednesday’s.

 

[1989]

You will go friend/t sooner if 22.4 gets voted in. It will take you longer to become rpcd. If 22.4 gets voted in. You part timers need to look at the long term. If 22.4's get voted in it's going to make the wait for rpcd insanely long.

The sooner she goes full time, the sooner she can retire. I took the long route. If I hadn’t, I would be eligible to retire in March.

For the long term, one has to weigh their full time pension amounts and eligible retirement date. And making $14,000 less (straight time) a year. Also weigh the strike scenario. In my center (not far from yours) a strike would almost guarantee a 7-10+ year wait to go driving.

 

[Hannah-banana]

And I am saying that with the PT talent UPS is hiring for $10/hr, there are very few rock stars. I am occasionally impressed but UPS will burn them out.

You get what you pay for