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10 mins past 40What would you consider excessive OT? over 40 hours?
10 mins past 40What would you consider excessive OT? over 40 hours?
Most Driver’s don’t want OT cut. If the Union negotiated for this they would be alienating the majority.
I guess getting into the pockets might cause the membership to show up and vote.
Vote the ones who negotiated to cut people’s needed pay right out of office.
Ok. Have you submitted possible contract language changes in the past?
That is not the issue. If they need it they need it, who are you to say how one should live."Needed pay"?
If you "need"overtime to get by, you're living beyond your means. Maybe shouldn'ta bought that $70k truck and $100k boat...
That is not the issue. If they need it they need it, who are you to say how one should live.
What specific language did you write and suggest to deal with excessive overtime and these other issues?I have. Before the last contract I gave our BA a list of things I'd like to see discussed/ addressed in the contract, such as excessive forced overtime, improving the pension health, language to prevent UPS from replacing workers with automation like drones, etc.. I later found my list wadded up in the trash can.
This is untrue. My experience has been the opposite your accusations.Union leadership doesn't give a crap about us any more than UPS does, other than maximizing the dues they can extract from the membership.
My bad. I took what you posted the wrong way. Sorry about that.I'm not telling anyone how to live, I'm stating my opinion.
This is why OT language will never be perfect in the contract. Too many people with different ideas of what is too much or too little.I know i do. Not excessive but i need 50 hours a week that puts me at 100k. Anything less is uncivilized
I appreciate this.
I have seen several underestimate what goes when you get in the belly of the beast that is Teamster/UPS relations and some of the closed door politics that are a necessary part of Union effectiveness.
If you can’t live on 40 hours a week especially if you have a spouse workingThis is why OT language will never be perfect in the contract. Too many people with different ideas of what is too much or too little.
I'm surprised to hear that.No excessive OT here.
Don't be a Dave brother. We don't all live in a 1 stop light town of Kansas.If you can’t live on 40 hours a week especially if you have a spouse working
You’re doing it wrong
Other unionized industries manage to figure out a way to accommodate those who want little to no OT and those who want as much as they can get. My wife is IBEW. No required OT in her local. The work still gets done, the contractors stay in business.This is why OT language will never be perfect in the contract. Too many people with different ideas of what is too much or too little.
Our industry is much different than most. We also are, lately a Industry that's exploding and unpredictable at the moment. Its easier said then done is what I'm saying and I'm sure her company isn't even quarter of the size of UPS.Other unionized industries manage to figure out a way to accommodate those who want little to no OT and those who want as much as they can get. My wife is IBEW. No required OT in her local. The work still gets done, the contractors stay in business.
nobody making you live in Cali are theyDon't be a Dave brother. We don't all live in a 1 stop light town of Kansas.
And if we did you wouldn't be able to live on 40 hours either.
You say that till we start to move to your state and you cry like a little bitch.nobody making you live in Cali are they
Come on out you candy asses from Cali will be hauling ass back the first blizzard or tornadoYou say that till we start to move to your state and you cry like a little bitch.
"Waaaahhhhhh they are making the housing cost go up...wwwaaaahhhh taxes went up!"
Can't win with you people.
Naw... We'll have plenty of money to pay some poor white trash kid to shovle our snow while we sit inside drinking bourbon. Then when we need to go somewhere that's what keyless start is for so we can warm up the car before getting in.Come on out you candy asses from Cali will be hauling ass back the first blizzard or tornado
You must be drunkNaw... We'll have plenty of money to pay some poor white trash kid to shovle our snow while we sit inside drinking bourbon. Then when we need to go somewhere that's what keyless start is for so we can warm up the car before getting in.