What happens if I go over 14 hours?

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I use my 16 hour extended time exception probably every other week. Pretty common for feeders around here.

Tell that to @UPSER1987 ...33 yrs

 

[govols019]

You gotta remember you still can't work over 8 hours without 30 minutes off duty though

If I've taken my full meal already and I get that red screen that says I must take another 30, I just laugh and roll on....if I'm pushing 16 there's no way I'm stopping.

Nobody has ever said anything to me about it.

 

[Heavy Package]

What happens if I go over 14 hours?

Orion actually has your last 20 stops in the correct order.

 

[Future]

After a year or two you can just figure him out....That’s what you get when you cross alcohol and being Polish

It is a mutation of @Jkloc420 s rhetoric

 

[What'dyabringmetoday???]

Cant be on road after the 14th hour.

There are exceptions. (Not saying that's the case here). Of course- you are obviously much smarter than me.

 

[Netsua 3:16]

I know that when we were slammed last summer, guys quitting left and right, a lot of the older drivers were parking well into he night on Fridays....as long as they didn’t go off property, APPARENTLY it was fine to go over 14 hours...

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I know that when we were slammed last summer, guys quitting left and right, a lot of the older drivers were parking well into he night on Fridays....as long as they didn’t go off property, APPARENTLY it was fine to go over 14 hours...

You can work as many hours as you want just as long as you're not on the road

 

[Jones]

Interesting. I didn’t know about the 16 hour exception rule.

So it says a 5 day pattern. Does that mean it can only be used on the 5th 6th or 7th day?

It's meant to be used for unforeseen circumstances, like weather related or an accident that shuts down a highway that literally prevent you from getting off the road in under 14. It can't be used just give you 2 more hours of work.

 

[over9five]

I use my 16 hour extended time exception probably every other week. Pretty common for feeders around here.

Used mine this morning.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

It's meant to be used for unforeseen circumstances, like weather related or an accident that shuts down a highway that literally prevent you from getting off the road in under 14. It can't be used just give you 2 more hours of work.

Not necessarily.
There's two different 2 hour exception rules.

The adverse conditions exception extends the 11 hour drive time to 13 for inclement weather or things like accidents.

The short haul exception extends the 14 hour on duty time to 16 hours for general delays, like a late train which is what it's usually used for here.

You can't use both of these exceptions on the same day.

 

[over9five]

Not necessarily.
There's two different 2 hour exception rules.

The adverse conditions exception extends the 11 hour drive time to 13 for inclement weather or things like accidents.

The short haul exception extends the 14 hour on duty time to 16 hours for general delays, like a late train which is what it's usually used for here.

You can't use both of these exceptions on the same day.

Yup, you can get a good explanation here:
https://www.fmcsa.dot.gov/sites/fmcsa.dot.gov/files/docs/Drivers_Guide_to_HOS_2016.pdf

 

[Jkloc420]

It is a mutation of @Jkloc420 s rhetoric

yep

 

[olroadbeech]

I know that when we were slammed last summer, guys quitting left and right, a lot of the older drivers were parking well into he night on Fridays....as long as they didn’t go off property, APPARENTLY it was fine to go over 14 hours...

still have to log it . when i was hauling tomatoes we practically worked around the clock. go until you pass out 7 days a week because of the 100 air mile agriculture rule. not sure if that is still the way it is.this was back in 80"s.

 

[Mugarolla]

We are in the middle of a national emergency

Correct.

no need to worry about hours. We are now allowed to work 24/7

Incorrect.

 

[Brownslave688]

The fact that we are even discussing this in mid May tells you how completely ed the company we work for is.

 

[PASinterference]

How would you have suggested they prepare for a once in a lifetime pandemic with unprecedented Federal bailouts?

They could prepare by not running a skeleton crew year round. Peak wouldnt be so bad, along with emergencies like this.
But I'm sure your "former center" was staffed wonderfully so you didnt have these problems.

 

[badpal]

How would you have suggested they prepare for a once in a lifetime pandemic with unprecedented Federal bailouts?

You might want to get ready----Pelosi is calling for a second round of stimulus checks, along with a $10B bailout for the Post Office and talk of forgiving all of their debt.

The way some people are ordering junk , they prolly consider this pandemic a blessing.

 

[Brownslave688]

How would you have suggested they prepare for a once in a lifetime pandemic with unprecedented Federal bailouts?

You might want to get ready----Pelosi is calling for a second round of stimulus checks, along with a $10B bailout for the Post Office and talk of forgiving all of their debt.

After 2 months of it with no end in sight I’d probably consider at least attempting to make some adjustments.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

They could prepare by not running a skeleton crew year round. Peak wouldnt be so bad, along with emergencies like this.
But I'm sure your "former center" was staffed wonderfully so you didnt have these problems.

I spoke with my former center manager during this past Peak and he told me that they were fully staffed with 60 routes on road. They had never run anywhere near 60 routes when I was there.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

The way some people are ordering junk , they prolly consider this pandemic a blessing.

Absolutely.