What IBT corruption?

[Frankie's Friend]

You want us to post pics and arrest records for an officer of a central region local that exposed themself to customers while being arrested for disorderly conduct in a bar and then turned around (on another day) and tried to outrun two state patrol officers when they were being given a walk the line sobriety test for drunk driving during an early evening stop?

Retired as an officer of the local.

Not a ups ba or former upser (never was) and not tdu.

There are winners everywhere.

But figuring the odds that there's a quarter of a million upsers vs the total talley of ibt officers there's bound to be more of a chance for failure in the hourly ranks.
The damage is normally singular...loss of job...end of story.

There's thousands of Monica and Bill events worldwide in corp offices but when the president gets busted the effects are broad spectrum and it demeans the whole associated leadership's credibility.

 

[BakerMayfield2018]

 

[Milly]

And UPS employees.... are such pillars of the community.

Remember this one ?

8 years in prison.... for child pornography.

That guy is freaking gross.

 

[Milly]

You want us to post pics and arrest records for an officer of a central region local that exposed themself to customers while being arrested for disorderly conduct in a bar and then turned around (on another day) and tried to outrun two state patrol officers when they were being given a walk the line sobriety test for drunk driving during an early evening stop?

Retired as an officer of the local.

Not a ups ba or former upser (never was) and not tdu.

There are winners everywhere.

But figuring the odds that there's a quarter of a million upsers vs the total talley of ibt officers there's bound to be more of a chance for failure in the hourly ranks.
The damage is normally singular...loss of job...end of story.

There's thousands of Monica and Bill events worldwide in corp offices but when the president gets busted the effects are broad spectrum and it demeans the whole associated leadership's credibility.

Which local was it.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Which local was it.

Post your local and I'll let you know if it's yours.

 

[Milly]

Post your local and I'll let you know if it's yours.

I know that there has never been anything in the last 30 years where I am at so I'm safe. Just wondered where that's all.

 

[clean hairy]

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2 peas in a pod

Or, 2 turds in a toilet?

 

[Inthegame]

There's thousands of Monica and Bill events worldwide in corp offices but when the president gets busted the effects are broad spectrum and it demeans the whole associated leadership's credibility.

And being close to 400 Teamster Locals each with 7 officers per local, the number of our bad actors is pretty small.
But every one makes the headlines, while corporate America keeps their dirty laundry well hidden.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

And being close to 400 Teamster Locals each with 7 officers per local, the number of our bad actors is pretty small.
But every one makes the headlines, while corporate America keeps their dirty laundry well hidden.

I was responding to the analogy that some upsers were child porn lovers and some TDU VP chose a ("known?") child porn addict as a BA.

There's abundant stones to throw in every direction and I'm not the only one that has seen what management has done and yet still has a job. They are moved around instead of being fired.

It's a race to the bottom. The norm is now what used to be abominable.

The dif for me is that I pay monthly for our "representation".
I expect more help and justice out of them than I would ever fathom would come from management who has wielded the Art 17i sword like they were righteous judges.
What a joke.

 

[Inthegame]

I was responding to the analogy that some upsers were child porn lovers and some TDU VP chose a ("known?") child porn addict as a BA.

There's abundant stones to throw in every direction and I'm not the only one that has seen what management has done and yet still has a job. They are moved around instead of being fired.

It's a race to the bottom. The norm is now what used to be abominable.

The dif for me is that I pay monthly for our "representation".
I expect more help and justice out of them than I would ever fathom would come from management who has wielded the Art 17i sword like they were righteous judges.
What a joke.

Yep, and I'd wager most members pay equal or more in insurance costs for themselves and their families than they do in dues.
Haven't heard anyone wishing their insurance agent rots in prison before hell.

 

[burrheadd]

Yep, and I'd wager most members pay equal or more in insurance costs for themselves and their families than they do in dues.
Haven't heard anyone wishing their insurance agent rots in prison before hell.

 

[Time for change]

Yep, and I'd wager most members pay equal or more in insurance costs for themselves and their families than they do in dues.
Haven't heard anyone wishing their insurance agent rots in prison before hell.

I’ve yet to have an insurance agent who was corrupt and evil.

 

[Inthegame]

I’ve yet to have an insurance agent who was corrupt and evil.

That's refreshing from you.

 

[Frankie's Friend]

I’ve yet to have an insurance agent who was corrupt and evil.

Can we schedule a um meeting to discuss my deductibles?

 

[Integrity]

You have no idea who I think should be running the IBT, frankly I want the IBT dismantled and non existent. The history of corruption is too long and vast to ever overcome the systematic corruption.

Are you anti-union?

 

[Integrity]

I was responding to the analogy that some upsers were child porn lovers and some TDU VP chose a ("known?") child porn addict as a BA.

There's abundant stones to throw in every direction and I'm not the only one that has seen what management has done and yet still has a job. They are moved around instead of being fired.

It's a race to the bottom. The norm is now what used to be abominable.

The dif for me is that I pay monthly for our "representation".
I expect more help and justice out of them than I would ever fathom would come from management who has wielded the Art 17i sword like they were righteous judges.
What a joke.

Get in the game, try to change things.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I was responding to the analogy that some upsers were child porn lovers and some TDU VP chose a ("known?") child porn addict as a BA.

He was not hired as a "known" purveyor of child pron.

No one had any clue, as he had 5 children. (which makes it more disgusting)


The way the Local and the company found out, was when he didn't show up

at some Local hearings and couldn't be contacted.

The dif for me is that I pay monthly for our "representation".
I expect more help and justice out of them than I would ever fathom would come from management who has wielded the Art 17i sword like they were righteous judges.
What a joke.

17-i made gains in 2013, and has been improved even further now.

The problem with 17-i was the company abused the original intent, for years.


It didn't help matters when discharged members accepted their job back

in exchange for a time served suspension.... adding wind to the company sails.



-Bug-

 

[Frankie's Friend]

He was not hired as a "known" purveyor of child pron.

No one had any clue, as he had 5 children. (which makes it more disgusting)


The way the Local and the company found out, was when he didn't show up

at some Local hearings and couldn't be contacted.





17-i made gains in 2013, and has been improved even further now.

The problem with 17-i was the company abused the original intent, for years.


It didn't help matters when discharged members accepted their job back

in exchange for a time served suspension.... adding wind to the company sails.



-Bug-

I understand the improvements but the (years) of damage has been done.

The pt timers had less of a stake in taking time served. The full timers are another issue. Lack of faith in the system and overspending at home tips the scale too often.

Either way, when the employee finally gets their job back the result is often a more militant attitude. Some actually become good stewards and so the coworkers gain from the employee's loss....for years to come.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I understand the improvements but the (years) of damage has been done.

I'm sure I don't have to remind anyone, who was the IBT General President

at the time. @PT Car Washer probably remembers all the changes to Art 40

at the same time.

Either way, when the employee finally gets their job back the result is often a more militant attitude. Some actually become good stewards and so the coworkers gain from the employee's loss....for years to come.

Lets go with that.



-Bug-

 

[Frankie's Friend]

Few people come to this job with a "unionism" mentality.
Few people leave the job without having cultivated one just to survive.