What is the REAL reason negotiations have stalled?

[burrheadd]

So you'd cross?

No

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I was busy porking @UnionStrong wife!

Cougar?

 

[542thruNthru]

Cougar?

At that time yes.

 

[542thruNthru]

Didn’t matter in the end

Kind of did right? I mean if the teamsters allowed the members to vote on the last and final the members could be where the ups sups are now. With no pension.

 

[Thebrownblob]

Kind of did right? I mean if the teamsters allowed the members to vote on the last and final the members could be where the ups sups are now. With no pension.

Perhaps, but in 1997, everyone said if UPS took it over, we wouldn’t have a pension. Hasn’t happened yet although I’m sure they’re working on it.

 

[UnionStrong]

I was busy porking @UnionStrong wife!

That can’t be true, because you’re still alive.

 

[542thruNthru]

Perhaps, but in 1997, everyone said if UPS took it over, we wouldn’t have a pension. Hasn’t happened yet although I’m sure they’re working on it.

You'd know better than me. I just remember a lot of people on here supporting it years later before the bailout and everything.

 

[542thruNthru]

Perhaps, but in 1997, everyone said if UPS took it over, we wouldn’t have a pension. Hasn’t happened yet although I’m sure they’re working on it.

I mean wasn't that kind of what was the driving force of AWPA. A separate UPS only pension?

 

[Thebrownblob]

You'd know better than me. I just remember a lot of people on here supporting it years later before the bailout and everything.

I don’t think anyone I knew would’ve voted yes on last, best and final. But admittedly, I was just a part timer, then. Lots of things I did not know.

 

[Thebrownblob]

I mean wasn't that kind of what was the driving force of AWPA. A separate UPS only pension?

Yes, they were a bunch of UPS guys that just wanted UPS to have their own union, fizzled out pretty quick.

 

[Bubblehead]

Perhaps, but in 1997, everyone said if UPS took it over, we wouldn’t have a pension. Hasn’t happened yet although I’m sure they’re working on it.

That fund, the UPS/IBT single employer fund, is like 107% funded?

 

[Analbumcover]

Who says I'm in a bad mood?

 

[Thebrownblob]

That fund, the UPS/IBT single employer fund, is like 107% funded?

I’m talking specifically about central states and multiemployer pension plans that UPS wanted to take us out of in 1997 and ultimately did, I was being tongue-in-cheek about them finding a way to get rid of it, although I still know they would love to get rid of it.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I don’t think anyone I knew would’ve voted yes on last, best and final. But admittedly, I was just a part timer, then. Lots of things I did not know.

We did not get a chance to vote on the 1997 contracthttps://youtu.be/NbYqoGM0GX8

 

[Thebrownblob]

We did not get a chance to vote on the 1997 contracthttps://youtu.be/NbYqoGM0GX8

Nope but I never personally heard anyone say they would have voted for it, if given the chance.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Nope but I never personally heard anyone say they would have voted for it, if given the chance.

Strike three?

 

[Bubblehead]

I’m talking specifically about central states and multiemployer pension plans that UPS wanted to take us out of in 1997 and ultimately did, I was being tongue-in-cheek about them finding a way to get rid of it, although I still know they would love to get rid of it.

They are essentially out now?

Every bit of liability UPS has in the Central States Fund will die off long before it runs out of money now.

 

[Automaton]

They are essentially out now?

Every bit of liability UPS has in the Central States Fund will die off long before it runs out of money now.

Central States got handed a big pile of money once before (6 billion + ?) and it evaporated right before their very eyes. Who's to say something similar won't happen this time? I hope the UPS backup remains in place—just in case.

 

[Bubblehead]

Central States got handed a big pile of money once before (6 billion + ?) and it evaporated right before their very eyes. Who's to say something similar won't happen this time? I hope the UPS backup remains in place—just in case.

This time it was $35.8 billion, so.....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Central States got handed a big pile of money once before (6 billion + ?) and it evaporated right before their very eyes. Who's to say something similar won't happen this time? I hope the UPS backup remains in place—just in case.

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