When will upsers be able to receive the covid-19 shot?
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Type I blood is very rare.
Brownslave688
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Ugh O
zubenelgenubi
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I identify as type I.
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I'd like to see that. Last I read, they were still clinging to some very sketchy contact tracings which they thought might have shown that it could be spread asymptomatically, maybe, and only had 5 instances of such. The WHO said back in April the only reason they thought the virus could be contained was because it wasn't spread asymptomatically, and that if it were, they would not recommend any action to try because it would be impossible. Then we get the story that the reason for lock downs is because it spreads asymptomatically. All it takes is a brief review of the stats to see which one of those assertions is correct.
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Mink infected with the coronavirus escapes Oregon fur farm
A mink caught outside a farm in Oregon in mid-December has tested positive for low-levels of the coronavirus.
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The Driver
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Kids still get infected and they still spread it asymptomatically. Doesn’t mean they have immunity.
Brownslave688
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They don’t though. Kids under 10 have virtually no spread at all yes even with relatively high viral loads.
Asymptomatic spread is still up in the air also. At best it doesn’t happen. At worst it’s really rare.
The Driver
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COVID-19 and Your Health
Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.
CDC disagrees with you.
Brownslave688
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Can can can may may may.COVID-19 and Your Health
Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.www.cdc.gov
CDC disagrees with you.
Lol no one said they couldn’t. It’s really rare though. Kids are in school all over the country and have been for months. That would have been shut down in no time if kids were spreading this stuff
The Driver
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Where did you see that asymptomatic spread wasn’t a big factor?
I don't know man little kids our germ spreaders
But my kids were in elementary school they didn't see a naked sick that often but poor mom and dad got tackled all that crappy germs they brought home
zubenelgenubi
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COVID-19 and Your Health
Symptoms, testing, what to do if sick, daily activities, and more.
CDC disagrees with you.
The CDC has been politicized. It contradicts itself constantly. I'd sooner trust a press release from the CCP than any information from the CDC.
Brownslave688
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Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2
This systematic review and meta-analysis examines evidence for household transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), disaggregated by several covariates, and compares it with other coronaviruses
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"Specifically, the study looked at how much the virus spread within households. The researchers found that among the studies that met their parameters, the "secondary attack rates" — that is, the likelihood of spread from an infected person to a previously uninfected person within a household — were higher among people who had symptoms than among those who didn’t: 18% for symptomatic individuals vs. 0.7% for asymptomatic individuals."
The Driver
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Interesting. Keep in mind that that the conclusions were also:Household Transmission of SARS-CoV-2
This systematic review and meta-analysis examines evidence for household transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2), disaggregated by several covariates, and compares it with other coronaviruses
"Specifically, the study looked at how much the virus spread within households. The researchers found that among the studies that met their parameters, the "secondary attack rates" — that is, the likelihood of spread from an infected person to a previously uninfected person within a household — were higher among people who had symptoms than among those who didn’t: 18% for symptomatic individuals vs. 0.7% for asymptomatic individuals."
“These findings suggest that households are and will continue to be important venues for transmission, even in areas where community transmission is reduced.
“Crowded indoor environments, such as households, are high-risk settings for the transmission of severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2).”
I would want an epidemiologist to explain this article to me in the clearest terms. It’s easy for a guy like me to pick one data point and draw a larger conclusion that doesn’t reflect the science.
The Driver
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Yeah, politicized by the Trump White House. That’s a fact. Look at the problems covered up at the meat packing plants, etc.
Brownslave688
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Of course it’s going to spread in a house. Same as every other virus known to man.
18% to .7% isn’t an insignificant amount though. If asymptomatic transmission was that low in a household where people are right next to each other all day long than it’s a pretty safe assumption that it’s not a significant factor in community spread.
The Driver
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I just think we need to be careful about the conclusions we draw from these metadata studies. For one, definitions of "asymptomatic" and "symptomatic"... I remember a WHO study that studied "asymptomatic" spread and they were referring to all people who were asymptomatic in a group, not necessarily those who were identified as COVID positive who were also asymptomatic for a time before they started showing any symptoms. They lumped everyone in together and created a lot of confusion for the Internet armchair epidemiologists.
Again, thanks for sharing. But I think the balance of evidence is strongly in favor of a higher level of asymptomatic spread through society in general than what you're suggesting. Have a good day, man.
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