Where will all the 22.4 drivers come from?

[Brian Schaefer]

Add to that, the 25% limit is only for the next 5 years. the company WILL push for that number to go up. This will be the beginning of the end af driving as a career.

That's assuming they will find 22.4 drivers

 

[PT Car Washer]

Agree 100%, this is why everyone should have voted no..UPS stuck their hand in the cookie jar and will continue to take more until FT drivers are obsolete.

By that time most current FT delivery drivers will be retired or moved into Feeder jobs.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Agree 100%, this is why everyone should have voted no..UPS stuck their hand in the cookie jar and will continue to take more until FT drivers are obsolete.

How is that going to happen, when the number of RPCD jobs are protected ?

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

How is that going to happen, when the number of RPCD jobs are protected ?

They will find a way. Just like when part timers and full timers made almost the same hourly rate ..

 

[BigUnionGuy]

They will find a way. Just like when part timers and full timers made almost the same hourly rate ..

I think it's a little premature to speculate about the 22.4's.

Reason being....

That's assuming they will find 22.4 drivers

It might not be the expected "windfall" the company is hoping for.

We'll see.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I think it's a little premature to speculate about the 22.4's.

Reason being....





It might not be the expected "windfall" the company is hoping for.

We'll see.

The cost of the benefits is probably going to cost more than the savings in overtime.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

The cost of the benefits is probably going to cost more than the savings in overtime.

Absolutely.


The only positive thing I can see from the addition of 22.4's....

It will reduce the wait time for a full-time driving job (in certain areas)

and reduce the need for RPCD's to be forced to work a different schedule.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Absolutely.


The only positive thing I can see from the addition of 22.4's....

It will reduce the wait time for a full-time driving job (in certain areas)

and reduce the need for RPCD's to be forced to work a different schedule.

I just don't like the no 9.5 protection for them...the company would never abuse that .....

 

[Benben]

That's assuming they will find 22.4 drivers

WTF? Every new driver they hire will be a 22.4 until they get to that 25% mark and then they will begin crying to the IBT package director about changing the 25% to 40%. 22.4's are cheaper and no 9.5 strings attached!

 

[BigUnionGuy]

I just don't like the no 9.5 protection for them...the company would never abuse that .....

I get that.

If it's abused.... it's something to look at, in the next contract.


But, people bidding the job (or off the street hire) would know that in advance.

Understanding that, you can't blame (some) people for wanting to be more

than part-time for years. It's a stepping stone, to being a RPCD.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

I get that.

If it's abused.... it's something to look at, in the next contract.


But, people bidding the job (or off the street hire) would know that in advance.

Understanding that, you can't blame (some) people for wanting to be more

than part-time for years. It's a stepping stone, to being a RPCD.

I guess we will find out ,if this contract ever gets settled

 

[BigUnionGuy]

WTF? Every new driver they hire will be a 22.4 until they get to that 25% mark and then they will begin crying to the IBT package director about changing the 25% to 40%. 22.4's are cheaper and no 9.5 strings attached!

And @Benben, crawls out of the woodwork to proffer an opinion.

Your experience as an elected Steward and Local Official.... tells you this ?

 

[1989]

WTF? Every new driver they hire will be a 22.4 until they get to that 25% mark and then they will begin crying to the IBT package director about changing the 25% to 40%. 22.4's are cheaper and no 9.5 strings attached!

If the abuse everyone fears happens. Then the 25% threshold of 22.4s is closer to a 40%+ growth for ups.

 

[1989]

I guess we will find out ,if this contract ever gets settled

A lot of drivers are waiting anxiously for it to settle so they can retire

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

A lot of drivers are waiting anxiously for it to settle so they can retire

Lots of people will probably be leaving in 2020

 

[1989]

Lots of people will probably be leaving in 2020

We have a flood waiting now.
Lots will leave in 2020, 2021, 2022, etc....

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

We have a flood waiting now.
Lots will leave in 2020, 2021, 2022, etc....

Central states pension is getting a nice bump up in 2020

 

[KOG72]

Lots of people will probably be leaving in 2020

Not me,wish it was

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

Not me,wish it was

You'll get there.

 

[KOG72]

You'll get there.

Come on mega million numbers