What'dyabringmetoday???
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Rumors are just that- rumors. But here is a fact- this company is out for blood and there is no representation from the Buffet Brigade.
Yearly ride along observation with sup
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UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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They have a couple of long time drivers in their sights as we speak----both for production issues.
Dracula
Package Car is cake compared to this...
My guess, is these are the guys who won't be worried about being in anyone's sights. That's typically how it goes where I'm from. Most long time drivers know this comes every year or so.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
Stories? I had 3 one day. Package sup, center manager and DM.
And this was before jumpseats.
1 on the bottom step by the door.
1 on the top step.
1 in the bulkhead door opening.
They were trying to find out why I was 2 hours over everyday. The day they all road with me I was 3 hours over.
Next day and from then on I was close to scratch.
I didn't work any differently. They changed the time allowances on my route.
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
As long as the drivers are working safely,by the methods and arent stealing time management cant pull the trigger. This whole idea of management 'having it in" for drivers over Production Issues is nothing but a clear sign of a lack of leadership and the reliance of Fear and Intimidation for a poor substitute. in 31 years i have never ever seen anyone fired or even disciplined over production.We have drivers in our center that ALWAYS run 4-5 hours OA,and the telematics can find no problems or issues and these drivers get a check every week.its comical as these guys are top seniority drivers and management BEGS them to take a day or two off during the week because of the Arse Chewings Management gets over the mythical Overallowed Numbers
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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4-5 hours over? Seriously??
TooTechie
Geek in Brown
You go to lunch with your on car? I drop mine off and say see you in 60 minutes.
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
Dead Serious. sure they get called in the office and either get Carrot or Stick but no discipline is issued. They retain the same OA numbers on the OJS. When ones SPOHR drops to single digits it gets attention lol
Help me out here, Dave. I'm not disputing you, but I believe you recently posted that just about all the drivers in your center were done every day at around 8.5 hours.
These drivers you are mentioning now go out with 3.5-4.5 hour dispatches?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Wu*?
The drivers being targeted are an hour or less over per day.
The drivers being targeted are an hour or less over per day.
Oops. Sorry. It was 728 mentioned 4-5 hours. My bad.
Still, being targeted for less than an hour a day is bad.
728ups
All Trash No Trailer
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHA our center manager would jump for joy over those kinds of numbers. In my experience a few good Harassment Grievances over production issues makes the wolves seek Sheep that wont fight back
The harassment and OJs rides have begun. I always have grievance forms on hand.
Lead Belly
BANNED
I've always eat in my truck or sat at a park. I pack my lunch. If the guys not a dick I'll sit and talk to them. They usually want to hear my stories anyway.
box_beeyotch
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Last time I had a ride along, my on car sup had me drop him off during my lunch break at his house, and I went and met up with one of the female customers on said route for a little lunch time fun. Of course I was then bored for the other 59 minutes of my break.
TooTechie
Geek in Brown
My on-car never rides a full day with me ever so he can't say "you did better with me..." He always plans to meet up with another driver after a couple hours so he can bail. Even when he had to do a safety ride the day after a minor accident he only rode with me for 2 hours. I guess there are some benefits to working in the ghetto.If you perform better on your ride along, sure as, they're gonna bring it up. "Hey when I was with you, your were 50 clicks better" et al. Follow the methods, work safely, and remember. You're human. YOU ARE GONNA MAKE MISTAKES.
rod
Retired 23 years
You're lucky. Most times they would just say that ride didn't count and leave you with a horse s--t time allowance.
Coldworld
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dont be a hater....
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
That's the key. As long as they maintain the same OA during an OJS and management can't find too much wrong, they are fine.
The problem arises when a driver consistently runs 2 hours OA and is close to scratch during an OJS.
This is where discipline comes in. Not for production numbers, but for not being able to do the job supervised as unsupervised.
A 1 day OJS will not invoke discipline, but you can bet that UPS will follow up with multiple rides on different days to get a base point.
If the driver cannot come close to this base point unsupervised, discipline will be coming.
Most drivers in this situation pick it up a little and come close to the base for the next 6 months and then start taking longer and longer.
Then the whole process starts all over again.
Most drivers also get sick of the rides and keep it close to ride numbers.
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