baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
You want a national abortion ban. Admit it.
1 in 4 women have abortions? Wow.
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I absolutely do. But it's a states rights issue, not a federal one. I doubt in my lifetime or in 10 lifetimes California or New York among others would ever ban abortion. And it looks like most states will have some allowances for abortion to varying degrees.
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Sure, until you get your way. It should be a federal issue, one of privacy and liberty, and women should have access to safe and legal abortion in all 50 states.
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Allowances for murder??? You don’t say?
How are we going to get our way when 50 different jurisdictions get to decide according to our federal constitution? The 49 years of trying to get Roe v Wade overturned didn't end abortion. It just made it a more local issue. The majority in each state gets to decide just as they do with every issue not enumerated as federal power in the Constitution.
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In your fanaticism you assume everyone else is a fanatic too. While I understand the desire of many to completely outlaw abortion I personally think it should be available for rape and incest victims as long as it's done early enough. A number of states are looking to allow abortions before there's an independent heartbeat. While I would prefer it only be for rape and incest if the fetus is still just a clump of cells and doesn't have an independent heartbeat, brain waves, or a nervous system that can feel pain then I and I'm guessing a lot of people could make that compromise. What we're seeing on the Left is no willingness to compromise and wanting abortion on demand at any point during the pregnancy. Snarling that you get your way or else and everyone is a
if they disagree with you doesn't sound like a willingness to rationally approach the subject.
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Ah I see, it is a complicated issue isn’t it? An issue with a lot of grey area and varying degrees of morality. Maybe it’s best to leave the decision up to those who actually carry the burden, along with the advice of a physician?In your fanaticism you assume everyone else is a fanatic too. While I understand the desire of many to completely outlaw abortion I personally think it should be available for rape and incest victims as long as it's done early enough. A number of states are looking to allow abortions before there's an independent heartbeat. While I would prefer it only be for rape and incest if the fetus is still just a clump of cells and doesn't have an independent heartbeat, brain waves, or a nervous system that can feel pain then I and I'm guessing a lot of people could make that compromise. What we're seeing on the Left is no willingness to compromise and wanting abortion on demand at any point during the pregnancy. Snarling that you get your way or else and everyone is a
baklava
I don’t work at UPS anymore.
Dude, you’re the fanatic. This isn’t a thing, and if it is, it’s a fringe element.
Yes, because a 22 yr old who gets drunk at a bar and goes home with a stranger is obviously the most capable of making life or death decisions.
You have the Democratic nominee demanding third trimester abortions. State legislators too. These are what you consider fringe elements?
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Every religious maniac I know is pro choice. They choose to believe the science of today(not the seventies)of what is in the uterus, and choose not to kill babies.
Wally
BrownCafe Innovator & King of Puns
Another fake abortion in the news. The media runs with the term abortion to fit their agenda?
She unfortunately miscarried. The baby passed. Why is she saying she had an abortion performed?
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She unfortunately miscarried. The baby passed. Why is she saying she had an abortion performed?
Halsey Suffered 3 Miscarriages and Re-Wrote Will After Almost Dying: 'Abortion Saved My Life'
"I gave detailed instructions regarding the donation of my organs should I die or be declared brain-dead," Halsey wrote in response to recent Roe. v. Wade ruling
Why miscarriage, ectopic pregnancy, and early delivery are not abortions
Too often, inaccurate medical terms have led many women to believe they have undergone abortions when nothing could be further from the truth.
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You realize a lot of times when someone murders another human being, it was traumatic for the murderer right?
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
So in your mind, everyone who isn't religious believes murder is okay?
I'm not a religious person.
I don't need religion to know that killing babies is wrong.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
I can tell you there isn't a single state in the nation where there is a punishment for a woman killing her baby in the womb.
Facts matter.
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Especially when it's their own, helpless, baby. A lot of women get traumatized from miscarriages, even when they are early on enough to not know they were pregnant.
BrownFlush
Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
If you are pro-abrtion, have the guts to watch an abortion. Seeing arms torn, heads crushed, and legs fall from a woman’s uterus might make you think about the reality it is. Pro-abortion folks think of abortion from a philosophical perspective. It's an idea alright. But, it's a real medical procedure.
What happens to a child during the process is horrifying.
Pro killers use the argument that its better to help a child avoid an abusive situation and a terrible life. Which is it better? Kill the baby now and avoid the abuse altogether or completely deprive the child of a chance at life?
I have to go with give a child a chance at life.
What happens to a child during the process is horrifying.
Pro killers use the argument that its better to help a child avoid an abusive situation and a terrible life. Which is it better? Kill the baby now and avoid the abuse altogether or completely deprive the child of a chance at life?
I have to go with give a child a chance at life.
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zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
She can't have it both ways, call it a fetus and expect to drive in the carpool lane. But I think she has a point, all mothers with child should get to drive in that lane and park in the easy access parking. If we care about the future, we should make life at least a little easier for the people actually bringing the next generation into the world.
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