BakerMayfield2018
Fight the power.
Well said ,My point exactly
$15 an hour minimum wage.
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DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Rising tides lift all boats.
alwaysoverallowed
Well-Known Member
- In my Inaugural I laid down the simple proposition that nobody is going to starve in this country. It seems to me to be equally plain that no business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country. By "business" I mean the whole of commerce as well as the whole of industry; by workers I mean all workers, the white collar class as well as the men in overalls; and by living wages I mean more than a bare subsistence level-I mean the wages of decent living.
Catatonic
Nine Lives
Perhaps UPS should hold these seminars for P/Timers.
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
And maybe start up a food bank as a part of the United Way Campaign.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Sadly, they get our simple orders wrong most of the time. Now they want their pay doubled? My wife doesn't like lettuce on sandwiches so she makes the simple request every time. at least 50% of the time the sandwich has lettuce. That's the most basic instruction. They can't do it. $15/hr?
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
You're saying that a $15 min wage would help all of us? How so?
PT Car Washer
Well-Known Member
Perhaps they would be able to hire more competent employees at a higher wage.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
This makes the point of why it would kill the opportunities of new workers trying to gain work experience for the first time. No employer is going to pay a high school kid $15/hr to dip a basket of fries into oil. What you'll have is older people who haven't found work putting McDonald's uniforms on. It leaves young people unemployed with no way to gain work experience and sets older people's skill levels back making it harder to get back into a more advanced job later.
alwaysoverallowed
Well-Known Member
Because the money to pay these people comes from the top, then the people in the middle get a raise because of competition for labor. The people at the top don't want inflation because it devalues the money they have. What happens is the inequality between the top and the bottoms shrinks. There's a little bit more then just that to it and there are disadvantages to raising the minimum wage but that's the long/short of it.
SignificantOwner
A Package Center Manager
They work as instructed. You think highly of their management and believe their processes set the hourly workers up for success. Maybe UPS should hire their management as consultants.
SignificantOwner
A Package Center Manager
They should unionize so they can make a little above minimum wage, pay initiation fees and union dues, and work ungodly early hours like the part-timers at UPS.
alwaysoverallowed
Well-Known Member
People working in the fast food industry do so because they can't find a better job.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/11/low-wage-jobs_n_4421095.html
And here's a fancy info graph that answers some questions raised.
alwaysoverallowed
Well-Known Member
Yeah but don't force them into those pesky things like job security, NO PAY healthcare, and a pension. Oh the horror if everyone had that.
JL 0513
Well-Known Member
Money comes from the consumer. The CEO can't open his wallet and suddenly pay everyone double than what they paid the day before.
A majority of jobs are in small business. Who's at "the top" in these small businesses? It's usually someone working really hard just to stay in business. You going to tell this Mom and Pop business that they have to pay their lowest entry level worker $15/hr.
This idea of these evil CEO's making millions exploiting their workers is exaggerated. Yes, CEO's of big corporations may make millions, but would you want that level of responsibility? I don't think so. These CEO's are very far and few in between.
browntroll
Well-Known Member
maybe their asking for $15 but will settle for $10? not sure who in their right mind would ask for $15 an hour minimum wage for
working at a fast food place. i understand is a big company but if theyre not happy then they should find something else. i have friends that
couldnt even get a job at mcdonalds if they applied(convicted felons) but now they do union labor jobs, they dont have highschool diplomas either
but now some are making $36 an hour(electricians/laborers/welders/boiler makers). i know more than a few ppl at my hub that work mutiple jobs and go
to school.
working at a fast food place. i understand is a big company but if theyre not happy then they should find something else. i have friends that
couldnt even get a job at mcdonalds if they applied(convicted felons) but now they do union labor jobs, they dont have highschool diplomas either
but now some are making $36 an hour(electricians/laborers/welders/boiler makers). i know more than a few ppl at my hub that work mutiple jobs and go
to school.
SignificantOwner
A Package Center Manager
I thought it was established that these p/t jobs weren't meant to be long term living wages. So no, don't force them into those things. And - Obamacare will pay for their health care.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
Maybe we should stop talking about "minimum" wage and start talking about "living" wage. Someone has to flip burgers, someone has to clean toilets, and someone has to empty my trash can. Whether it's entry level/temporary or not, they have bills to pay just like everyone else.
Guess what happens when you pay these people below a living wage. They use public assistance. Guess who pays for that... the taxpayers. We are subsidizing billions in corporate profit.
http://livingwage.mit.edu/
Guess what happens when you pay these people below a living wage. They use public assistance. Guess who pays for that... the taxpayers. We are subsidizing billions in corporate profit.
http://livingwage.mit.edu/
