2 part question. Penalties/Union representation.

[542thruNthru]

My BA said I can't grieve penalties and I can't find anything in the local regarding the time in which penalties should be paid by the company so should I just file a grievance anyways?

Article 17 NMA- paid for time.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

It sure feels like that. So why do I pay dues then?

Because the teamster managers need to be paid 2x-10x+ more than working people

 

[trickpony1]

Most UPS people talk smack, and do nothing.

Last time I checked, the union members pay the salaries of these union officials that are supposed to represent and protect us.

It's sorta like UPS pays us to do a job. If we don't do said job we get, eventually, fired.

I know it's confusing.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Last time I checked, the union members pay the salaries of these union officials that are supposed to represent and protect us.

It's sorta like UPS pays us to do a job. If we don't do said job we get, eventually, fired.

I know it's confusing.

That's why there are Local elections every 3 years. Don't like your Local situation ?

Run for office.... @Bubblehead did, and is now President of a 5000 man Local.

 

[MenInBrown]

Since the BA won't return your calls call the union hall and speak to the President.

If this doesn't work contact NLRB.
If this doesn't work contact your state Labor Board.

Isn't there contract language about the time period for penalty checks?

Yes there are but it’s in the book that the Teamsters do not enforce.

 

[MenInBrown]

It sure feels like that. So why do I pay dues then?

If you’re in a RTW, stop paying dues until they want to work for you. We have to work for our money, they do to.

 

[BigUnionGuy]

Yes there are but it’s in the book that the Teamsters do not enforce.

This isn't the girl scouts.

Got a problem.... file a grievance.... and be involved with the process.

If you’re in a RTW, stop paying dues until they want to work for you. We have to work for our money, they do to.

Wow.

That's really going to fix things.

 

[PT Car Washer]

If you’re in a RTW, stop paying dues until they want to work for you. We have to work for our money, they do to.

Don't like the refs call, pick up your ball and go home? Not every decision is going to go the way you think it should.

 

[Boywondr]

Well....


Most UPS people talk smack, and do nothing.

Well, there are a lot of us.

 

[Boywondr]

I knew a guy in the same situation. He called his landlord in the HR office and forced the HR guy to explain why his rent was gonna be late. The HR guy was really embarrassed to be put on the spot like that, but I guess after that his issue got fixed and he hasn't had problems since.

I wouldn't have the stones to do what he did, but I guess if you're desperate enough to try it...

Personally, I like to ride the gravy train as far as it will take me. Like @BigUnionGuy showed you, after 10 working days the clock starts ticking again. Your penalty pay has been adding up for most of those 17 weeks.

We file weekly for the penalty pay per pay period.

 

[Boywondr]

That's why there are Local elections every 3 years. Don't like your Local situation ?

Run for office.... @Bubblehead did, and is now President of a 5000 man Local.

Nope. He's anonymous.

 

[Boywondr]

As far as I know. The BA hasn't been the most forthcoming the one time he's said anything about it.

So you didnt go to the hearing?

 

[MenInBrown]

Don't like the refs call, pick up your ball and go home? Not every decision is going to go the way you think it should.

im not paying the ref. I’m paying the commissioner. Enforce the contract.

 

[UnionGuy]

Grievance it. They pay you for them having to fix it.

 

[BananakinPiewalker]

So you didnt go to the hearing?

As I mentioned my business agent doesn't give me any information. I just now found out that a grievance I filed 2 months ago under his instruction is wrong. Filed five that day four were right the one for the most money was allegedly wrong. Now it's been so long and my situation has gotten so rough that I don't have the time or the resources to figure out who's bullting who here...

 

[Boywondr]

As I mentioned my business agent doesn't give me any information. I just now found out that a grievance I filed 2 months ago under his instruction is wrong. Filed five that day four were right the one for the most money was allegedly wrong. Now it's been so long and my situation has gotten so rough that I don't have the time or the resources to figure out who's bullting who here...

I'm sorry to hear that. It's a bad work environment often. Hang in there.

 

[22.34life]

There is no excuse for not returning calls.





That's kind of odd....





Oh yeah.


"Any grievance settlement not paid within ten (10) working days of the settlement shall entitle the grievant(s) to a penalty payment as outlined above. The ten (10) working day period shall begin to run when the Labor Department representative agrees to the settlement, or is notified by the Union or management team of the settlement."


https://teamster.org/sites/default/files/ups18nationalmaster.pdf



-Bug-

the only problem with that article 17 language is how does the member know when the settlement date was and when the 10 day window has expired.