And to make 30 an hour it requires 20 years of service??? 20 years of service u don’t deserve 30 an hour but a driver in 4 years does??? NeeeeextWhat are you taking about loaders in my building make over 30 an hour???
And to make 30 an hour it requires 20 years of service??? 20 years of service u don’t deserve 30 an hour but a driver in 4 years does??? NeeeeextWhat are you taking about loaders in my building make over 30 an hour???
Not new hiresWhat are you taking about loaders in my building make over 30 an hour???
Exactly no new hire should get 30 an hour…I never said that I said a new hire gets 20 an hour, 20 an hour in the state of New York is what they pay at target , fed ex, Amazon , McDonald’s in nyc is 20 an hour …it’s UPS it’s 2022..pre loaders can and should easily be paid 20 an hourNot new hires
Believe it or not just last year across the country there was locations where an 18 yr old kid without a high school diploma could walk into a ups building and get an MRA rate of the highest I seen was 28 an hour …28 an hour starting , day 1 to an unqualified uneducated child….if they can do that(which happened just last year/this year) they can easily , without missing a beat pay all new hires 20 an hr… right now it’s 18.50Not new hires
But do those other places offer the same benefit package as UPS?Exactly no new hire should get 30 an hour…I never said that I said a new hire gets 20 an hour, 20 an hour in the state of New York is what they pay at target , fed ex, Amazon , McDonald’s in nyc is 20 an hour …it’s UPS it’s 2022..pre loaders can and should easily be paid 20 an hour
If the company is already forced to pay that in order to get employees, it doesn't seem worth negotiating.Believe it or not just last year across the country there was locations where an 18 yr old kid without a high school diploma could walk into a ups building and get an MRA rate of the highest I seen was 28 an hour …28 an hour starting , day 1 to an unqualified uneducated child….if they can do that(which happened just last year/this year) they can easily , without missing a beat pay all new hires 20 an hr… right now it’s 18.50
If people only understood how good that healthcare is and what it could do for you in case of some sort of tragedy they would not be so quick to dismiss this job and the opportunity it provides. I can promise you it is literally worth millions if something bad happens.But do those other places offer the same benefit package as UPS?
What part time job offers a pension and 100% paid
Healthcare
When you're young you don't get the big picture they just see today and nowIf people only understood how good that healthcare is and what it could do for you in case of some sort of tragedy they would not be so quick to dismiss this job and the opportunity it provides. I can promise you it is literally worth millions if something bad happens.
Personally I don’t have a problem with everyone making the same amount although I’m not quite certain how someone could possibly earn on a living with a guarantee of 3 1/2 hours a day. The whole point of moving towards full-time is because that is what actually pushes people into the middle class. I spent eight years part-time and in 1997 I walk the picket line with a sign that says “part-time America doesn’t work”.Lower ft pay rate to $25/hr. They get healthcare. They need to get the big picture. They are lucky to have jobs.
When you're young you don't get the big picture they just see today and now
Or make them go bankruptView attachment 407973
A couple bills like this will wake people up.
I mean they gave until December 11 and a very generous payment plan LOLOr make them go bankrupt
Because he figured out your negotiating skills? Lol.Ok.... Mr. Supervisor
You've been on this site for a whole 2 days, and come into the Union forum spouting that nonsense ?
You are going to be real popular around these parts....
Lol sounds like a butt hurt management person who lost their pension.Shouldn't be pension checks either. Once you stop working you stop getting paid. Pay better while working, good 401K match, eliminate all the retiree stuff. That is what should happen for all new hires.
If starting loader pay goes to $20 then top loader pay should be no more than $5/hr higher than that. $21 for a first year 22.4 is fine but the progression should be much faster. Once you get a year in you should go up fast in pay. Instead of say $21, 22,23,30. Do something like $21, 25, 30, 35. Same for RPCDs, go to $23, 30, 35, top. Progression is too slow, the raise from 3rd to 4th year is crazy. Give a bigger raise in years 2 and 3.Far as the loaders getting paid overtime for the six punch that's in your local supplement.
Wouldn't used to have that until we got that negotiated in
They're not going to pay loaders $30 an hour when a new driver is only making $21 per hour
They're going to have to do something because $20 isn't going to attract a lot of qualified driversIf starting loader pay goes to $20 then top loader pay should be no more than $5/hr higher than that. $21 for a first year 22.4 is fine but the progression should be much faster. Once you get a year in you should go up fast in pay. Instead of say $21, 22,23,30. Do something like $21, 25, 30, 35. Same for RPCDs, go to $23, 30, 35, top. Progression is too slow, the raise from 3rd to 4th year is crazy. Give a bigger raise in years 2 and 3.
Same pay scale as RPCDs or do you screw them like the rest of the part timers?22.4 was a terrible solution to weekend work. The easiest, maybe even the only, way to deal with weekend work and keep most people on M-friend is to create a part time driver position. I would be pretty happy to work two tens on the weekends and fill in during the week from time to time. The contractual details might be difficult to sort out, but it would be way easier to deal with on an operational level.
It’s a part time job you want moreSame pay scale as RPCDs or do you screw them like the rest of the part timers?
Same job, should be same hourly rate. No reason it wouldn't be. May not get all the same benefits but hourly rate should be equal, obviously. Tired of these full timers thinking they are better than part timers doing the same job for the same company. Crazy.It’s a part time job you want more
Get a full time job
Tired of these part timers whining about what they want and don’t want