22.4 ratio question
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542thruNthru
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I don't know about you but every center here is required to post a seniority list. If they don't go by center seniority there than there should be a building seniority list.
21Savage
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We do have one but it's woefully outdated. There's guys from last peak who aren't here anymore on it.
Poop Head
Judge me.
542thruNthru
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File a grievance on not having a updated seniority list or hell just file the 22.4 grievance and let your local figure it out.
Poop Head
Judge me.
It should show only permanent employees. Their full time and part time seniority dates
21Savage
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I only started last peak and the people on it were full time, at the time. Not seasonal. But still woefully outdated.It should show only permanent employees. Their full time and part time seniority dates
Poop Head
Judge me.
Figure out who your smartest steward is.
Then do what @542thruNthru said and just file a grievance on not having a current seniority list.
I cant remember for certain, but i think the language on seniority lists and postings is in my local rider. Check yours.
21Savage
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Yup. Will do bro. I get way better info on here than talking to any of our three stews. 2 of them only work once a week and the other (who gave me this information) is EAM and you barely get to see him and he's obviously uneducated.Figure out who your smartest steward is.
Then do what @542thruNthru said and just file a grievance on not having a current seniority list.
I cant remember for certain, but i think the language on seniority lists and postings is in my local rider. Check yours.
21Savage
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Yup. Will do bro. I get way better info on here than talking to any of our three stews. 2 of them only work once a week and the other (who gave me this information) is EAM and you barely get to see him and he's obviously just uneducated.Figure out who your smartest steward is.
Then do what @542thruNthru said and just file a grievance on not having a current seniority list.
I cant remember for certain, but i think the language on seniority lists and postings is in my local rider. Check yours.
542thruNthru
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Just whatever you do. Never go to the @Turdferguson answer thread if you need a question answered correctly
If it makes you feel better...When us RPCD first started we too were used and abused. We had a hell of a time getting 8 hours, and couldn't ever get a summer vacation.
Whither
Scofflaw
@21Savage until you're familiar, it's a good idea to read pertinent sections of the contract book (including your supplement and local rider) during your breaks and especially any paid down time(!), e.g., waiting on a pickup. Start with Article 22.4; you'll be doing yourself favor. For example, as late as last winter my BA was unaware of the new language that all RPCDs, regardless of seniority or route assignment, are eligible for 9.5 protection as soon as 22.4s are working in their building. Not from malice, just laziness. If I hadn't known better, I would've left a lot of money on the table, and he would've kept giving bad advice.
@zubenelgenubi created a useful table of contents for the National Master that you can find here Table of Contents for the Master Contract | UPS Union Issues
@zubenelgenubi created a useful table of contents for the National Master that you can find here Table of Contents for the Master Contract | UPS Union Issues
Just A UPS Guy
Bully.
Cool, see Article 22.4 section 3 and it explains it more accurately. @542thruNthru pretty spot on 10 times out of 10 but none of us are perfect with the contract. Regarding RPCD to 22.4, it is clearly explained as 4:1.
Up In Smoke
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Seniority lists are covered in the Master and are updated quarterly on 2/1, 5/1, 8/1 and 11/1. The company is required to maintain and post in plan view.
Up In Smoke
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Your steward should have been given the RPCD protected number after the contract was ratified. That protected number is 75% of the seniority employees plus any open bid sheets. If you had 98 RPCDs and 2 in progression, your protected number is 75. An RPCD cannot be added until you building drops below that 75 protected number. The 6-1-1 hiring rotation is still recognized within our local, but I understand that is not nationally accepted.
The only way you can get an RPCD here now is to become a 22.4 driver first.
Up In Smoke
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Do you allow for geographical transfers or classification transfers.
Up In Smoke
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Prior to the 22.4 language were they allowed?
