A policing solution....simple.

[Box Ox]

I appreciate your open racism that lumps all black people into this picture that you’re obsessed with.

Actually, I'm not lumping them all together. You're just projecting. You're the one who is obsessed with lumping all black people together by painting a picture of a "black experience in America" that's the fault of systemically racist systems set up by white devils that victimize black people by default and through no fault of their own.

That is not the case in 2021. I believe black people are just as smart and capable as white people. And that most who are not able to succeed in 2021 have not adopted the "white" traditions, attitudes and ways of life that successful Americans often have in common. Black people are smart enough and capable enough to do so even if you don't believe they are.

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

Here's an idea. Put on a uniform and shut up.

You should take your own advice Sweet Cheeks

 

[It will be fine]

You’re the one putting black people in with thugs that do have it rough in America. It’s called criminal justice pal, we kind of need it and we have the best system in the world for holding people accountable, not a perfect system, but the best.

Nixon’s policy advisor that began the war on drugs, "You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

It’s hard to believe there is not racism built into our criminal justice system when the architects of that system openly admit they designed it that way.

 

[El Correcto]

Nixon’s policy advisor that began the war on drugs, "You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

It’s hard to believe there is not racism built into our criminal justice system when the architects of that system openly admit they designed it that way.

Is it racist to not allow blacks to have heroin?

 

[refineryworker05]

Make it Federal Law that all law enforcement must be black or brown(of color).

Defund them and disarm them. No guns. Eliminate bail and prisons. Oh and choke holds and tasers....

This will solve the mean, racist behavior of white cops vs. black people. No more systemic racism in policing....right?

Simple.....yes?

BTW, if you don't have enough "volunteers"......institute a Federal draft......

Legalize black on black crime.....anything goes....knives all the way to ar-15's.

Send trained "violence interruptors" to 16 yo knife fights......

Racist? Nope. This truly eliminates the possibility of racism. Let's take being white out of the equation.

republican voters are expressing irrationality. what rational ideas is that poster presenting? This poster said to legalize black on black crime? How does one legalize crime? By definition it would not be a crime when you legalize it. How does one legalize crime by race? Oh black people its ok for yall to steal but only from other black people. I mean the pure racism to post this is on display and other posters liked the post. republican voters are landing on irrationality and complete incoherence because one cop who everyone saw murder someone on video was convicted.

 

[refineryworker05]

Actually, I'm not lumping them all together. You're just projecting. You're the one who is obsessed with lumping all black people together by painting a picture of a "black experience in America" that's the fault of systemically racist systems set up by white devils that victimize black people by default and through no fault of their own.

That is not the case in 2021. I believe black people are just as smart and capable as white people. And that most who are not able to succeed in 2021 have not adopted the "white" traditions, attitudes and ways of life that successful Americans often have in common. Black people are smart enough and capable enough to do so even if you don't believe they are.

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This is a false view of what racism is or was or continues to be. There are gigantic racial gaps that have existed in this nation for hundreds of years. Do you understand that?

There is a black white unemployment gap even when adjusted for education, that black people have 1.5 to 2 times the unemployment rate of white people. So black college grads have the same collective bad black racial behavior that causes them to have 1.6 times higher unemployment rate than white college grads?

Hell, there was a study that looked at black male doctors and white male doctors and those black doctors made like $64,000 less per year. Again black male doctors have some collective black racial behavior that causes them to earn $64000 less than white male doctors?

The standard American racist trope is that there is something collectively wrong within the black race and that bad black racial behavior is the issue, whether that bad collective black racial behavior is explained by genetics or amorphous culture.

Whatever your belief about the capabilities of black Americans, your position on racial inequality is the standard American racist position.

 

[refineryworker05]

Unequal Pay for Doctors

Black male doctors earn substantially less than white male doctors, still more than female doctors

hms.harvard.edu

We found that the inequities in pay for physicians mirror disparities in the overall U.S. economy,” said Anupam Jena, senior author of the study and the Ruth L. Newhouse Associate Professor of Health Care Policy and Medicine at HMS, and a physician at Massachusetts General Hospital. “Unfortunately, this means that medicine has not been spared the disparities by race and sex that plague the rest of the U.S. labor market.”

Get more HMS news here.

The authors noted that the pay gap is not explained by any of the many factors that are known to influence doctors’ income, such as specialty, number of hours worked, geographical region or number of years in practice.

The authors used two nationally representative surveys of physicians to reach their conclusions.

The larger of the surveys covered the years 2000 through 2013 and included annual income information for more than 60,000 black and white doctors, both male and female, along with information about age, number of hours worked, and the state in which the doctor practiced. A smaller but more detailed national survey was used to corroborate the findings. This smaller survey included nearly 18,000 physicians and covered the years 2000 through 2008. It provided additional information that allowed the researchers to adjust for specialty, number of years in practice, number of hours worked, practice type, and other factors known to influence doctor income.

Both surveys showed the same disparities.

In the larger survey, white male doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $253,042, compared with $188,230 for black male doctors, a statistically significant difference of $64,812. Meanwhile, white female doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $163,234, an amount that was not statistically different from the adjusted median annual income of $152,784 among black female doctors.

 

[refineryworker05]

Labor Day 2019 | Black workers endure persistent racial disparities in employment outcomes

Black workers are twice as likely to be unemployed as white workers overall. Even black workers with a college degree are more likely to be unemployed than similarly educated white workers. When they are employed, black workers with a college or advanced degree are more likely than their white...

www.epi.org

Black workers are twice as likely to be unemployed as white workers overall (6.4% vs. 3.1%). Even black workers with a college degree are more likely to be unemployed than similarly educated white workers (3.5% vs. 2.2%). When they are employed, black workers with a college or advanced degree are more likely than their white counterparts to be underemployed when it comes to their skill level—almost 40% are in a job that typically does not require a college degree, compared with 31% of white college grads. This relatively high black unemployment and skills-based underemployment suggests that racial discrimination remains a failure of an otherwise tight labor market.

 

[El Correcto]

Unequal Pay for Doctors

Black male doctors earn substantially less than white male doctors, still more than female doctors

hms.harvard.edu

We found that the inequities in pay for physicians mirror disparities in the overall U.S. economy,” said Anupam Jena, senior author of the study and the Ruth L. Newhouse Associate Professor of Health Care Policy and Medicine at HMS, and a physician at Massachusetts General Hospital. “Unfortunately, this means that medicine has not been spared the disparities by race and sex that plague the rest of the U.S. labor market.”

Get more HMS news here.

The authors noted that the pay gap is not explained by any of the many factors that are known to influence doctors’ income, such as specialty, number of hours worked, geographical region or number of years in practice.

The authors used two nationally representative surveys of physicians to reach their conclusions.

The larger of the surveys covered the years 2000 through 2013 and included annual income information for more than 60,000 black and white doctors, both male and female, along with information about age, number of hours worked, and the state in which the doctor practiced. A smaller but more detailed national survey was used to corroborate the findings. This smaller survey included nearly 18,000 physicians and covered the years 2000 through 2008. It provided additional information that allowed the researchers to adjust for specialty, number of years in practice, number of hours worked, practice type, and other factors known to influence doctor income.

Both surveys showed the same disparities.

In the larger survey, white male doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $253,042, compared with $188,230 for black male doctors, a statistically significant difference of $64,812. Meanwhile, white female doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $163,234, an amount that was not statistically different from the adjusted median annual income of $152,784 among black female doctors.

What practice are the black doctors in. There are many kinds of doctors, degrees and specialists matter in the field of medicine.
I guarantee you Ben Carson was making ing bank.

 

[refineryworker05]

What practice are the black doctors in. There are many kinds of doctors, degrees and specialists matter in the field of medicine.
I guarantee you Ben Carson was making *ing bank.

The answer to your question is in the post.

The authors noted that the pay gap is not explained by any of the many factors that are known to influence doctors’ income, such as specialty, number of hours worked, geographical region or number of years in practice.

 

[El Correcto]

Also individuals are responsible for playing the job market. Shop around, negotiate your salary. You don’t just instantly hop to well it’s because of racism this happens. I highly doubt the very liberal medical field is targeting blacks unfairly.

 

[refineryworker05]

Also individuals are responsible for playing the job market. Shop around, negotiate your salary. You don’t just instantly hop to, well it’s because of racism this happens. I highly doubt the very liberal medical field is targeting blacks unfairly.

Again it always comes back to the same thing. There is a racial inequality, but racism isn't the issue. You see black male doctors collectively have bad black racial traits that results in them earning $64000 less per year than white male doctors. This reasoning has to suppose that black male doctors because they are black all share some behavioral traits that results in them getting paid less. How is this view point not the definition of racist?

This study looked at surveys that lasted 13 years and covered the salaries of 78,000 black and white doctors. But your uneducated "belief" that it couldn't be racism means what exactly?

 

[El Correcto]

Again it always comes back to the same thing. There is a racial inequality, but racism isn't the issue. You see black male doctors collectively have bad black racial traits that results in them earning $64000 less per year than white male doctors. This reasoning has to suppose that black male doctors because they are black all share some behavioral traits that results in them getting paid less. How is this view point not the definition of racist?

This study looked at surveys that lasted 13 years and covered the salaries of 78,000 black and white doctors. But your uneducated "belief" that it couldn't be racism means what exactly?

Mine is saying correlation does not equal causation. Do you have proof that the medical industry is targeting black doctors for racial reasons and paying them less or is this another one of your racial conspiracy theories?

 

[El Correcto]

What you are saying is the medical industry is racist, which causes black doctors to get paid less. That is on it’s face a flat out lie, you have no proof of that you silly little conspiracy nut.

 

[It will be fine]

What you are saying is the medical industry is racist, which causes black doctors to get paid less. That is on it’s face a flat out lie, you have no proof of that you silly little conspiracy nut.

What’s your explanation for the disparity?

 

[refineryworker05]

Mine is saying correlation does not equal causation. Do you have proof that the medical industry is targeting black doctors for racial reasons and paying them less or is this another one of your racial conspiracy theories?

the disparity is the proof. Unless you believe that black male doctors have a collective black racial behavior that is caused by their being black, it doesn't make sense that adjusting for specialty, hours, years of experience would result in black male doctor earning $64000 per year less than white doctors in the same specialty, who work similar hours, with similar years of experience. The only rational explanation given American society and all the other longstanding huge racial disparities that exist is racism. The only way around that conclusion is to believe that there is some collective black racial trait within black doctors that would explain that disparity.

 

[refineryworker05]

It is almost impossible to find one area of racial parity in American society. I am being serious. From employment to incarceration, to home ownership, to wealth, to income, to life expectancy, to education, to access to health care, to access to capital for businesses, to buying a car, to renting apartments, to the likelihood of living in a high pollution area, etc, there are huge racial disparities that exist. A non racist nation wouldn't keep reproducing these huge racial disparities decade after decade.

There was a study of American children from 1989 to 2015, where they tracked the income of their parents and their income as adults, and they found that black male children no matter their parent's income did worse and were more likely to end up in poverty as adults when compared to white male children born to parents with the same income.

 

[refineryworker05]

Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys

A study of 20 million children shows the fragility of the American Dream.

www.nytimes.com

Black boys raised in America, even in the wealthiest families and living in some of the most well-to-do neighborhoods, still earn less in adulthood than white boys with similar backgrounds, according to a sweeping new study that traced the lives of millions of children.
White boys who grow up rich are likely to remain that way. Black boys raised at the top, however, are more likely to become poor than to stay wealthy in their own adult households.

 

[refineryworker05]

What you are saying is the medical industry is racist, which causes black doctors to get paid less. That is on it’s face a flat out lie, you have no proof of that you silly little conspiracy nut.

Yes, the medical industry is racist and pays black doctors less.

 

[El Correcto]

What’s your explanation for the disparity?

Black individuals decided to accept less pay than their white counter parts on average is what the data shows. Not a cabal of racists running our medical industry making sure blacks make less.
Just like women decided to accept less pay than their male counter parts.

I don’t get why individual choices are so hard for you people to understand. Everything has to be group identity with you and racist conspiracy theories.