A policing solution....simple.

[El Correcto]

If I was going to go conspiratorial with this, it wouldn’t be that racism is built into our medical industry, it’s that price controls similar to universal healthcare is not.
Commies could use this as an excuse to come in and set doctor wages similar to what the government does in the UK in the name of fighting racism and moving us closer to their utopian healthcare dreams.

 

[upsgrunt]

Yes, the medical industry is racist and pays black doctors less.

That's it!
Defund those MFer's!

And it also said this:
My position is that any job will be filled if you pay people enough money. If you can't get people to fill your position as an employer its because your competitors other employers are paying better in some way. That's it.

https://www.browncafe.com/community/posts/4843310/react?reaction_id=1

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

This is a false view of what racism is or was or continues to be. There are gigantic racial gaps that have existed in this nation for hundreds of years. Do you understand that?

There is a black white unemployment gap even when adjusted for education, that black people have 1.5 to 2 times the unemployment rate of white people. So black college grads have the same collective bad black racial behavior that causes them to have 1.6 times higher unemployment rate than white college grads?

Hell, there was a study that looked at black male doctors and white male doctors and those black doctors made like $64,000 less per year. Again black male doctors have some collective black racial behavior that causes them to earn $64000 less than white male doctors?

The standard American racist trope is that there is something collectively wrong within the black race and that bad black racial behavior is the issue, whether that bad collective black racial behavior is explained by genetics or amorphous culture.

Whatever your belief about the capabilities of black Americans, your position on racial inequality is the standard American racist position.

Unequal Pay for Doctors

Black male doctors earn substantially less than white male doctors, still more than female doctors

hms.harvard.edu

We found that the inequities in pay for physicians mirror disparities in the overall U.S. economy,” said Anupam Jena, senior author of the study and the Ruth L. Newhouse Associate Professor of Health Care Policy and Medicine at HMS, and a physician at Massachusetts General Hospital. “Unfortunately, this means that medicine has not been spared the disparities by race and sex that plague the rest of the U.S. labor market.”

Get more HMS news here.

The authors noted that the pay gap is not explained by any of the many factors that are known to influence doctors’ income, such as specialty, number of hours worked, geographical region or number of years in practice.

The authors used two nationally representative surveys of physicians to reach their conclusions.

The larger of the surveys covered the years 2000 through 2013 and included annual income information for more than 60,000 black and white doctors, both male and female, along with information about age, number of hours worked, and the state in which the doctor practiced. A smaller but more detailed national survey was used to corroborate the findings. This smaller survey included nearly 18,000 physicians and covered the years 2000 through 2008. It provided additional information that allowed the researchers to adjust for specialty, number of years in practice, number of hours worked, practice type, and other factors known to influence doctor income.

Both surveys showed the same disparities.

In the larger survey, white male doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $253,042, compared with $188,230 for black male doctors, a statistically significant difference of $64,812. Meanwhile, white female doctors had an adjusted median annual income of $163,234, an amount that was not statistically different from the adjusted median annual income of $152,784 among black female doctors.

Labor Day 2019 | Black workers endure persistent racial disparities in employment outcomes

Black workers are twice as likely to be unemployed as white workers overall. Even black workers with a college degree are more likely to be unemployed than similarly educated white workers. When they are employed, black workers with a college or advanced degree are more likely than their white...

www.epi.org

Black workers are twice as likely to be unemployed as white workers overall (6.4% vs. 3.1%). Even black workers with a college degree are more likely to be unemployed than similarly educated white workers (3.5% vs. 2.2%). When they are employed, black workers with a college or advanced degree are more likely than their white counterparts to be underemployed when it comes to their skill level—almost 40% are in a job that typically does not require a college degree, compared with 31% of white college grads. This relatively high black unemployment and skills-based underemployment suggests that racial discrimination remains a failure of an otherwise tight labor market.

The answer to your question is in the post.

The authors noted that the pay gap is not explained by any of the many factors that are known to influence doctors’ income, such as specialty, number of hours worked, geographical region or number of years in practice.

Again it always comes back to the same thing. There is a racial inequality, but racism isn't the issue. You see black male doctors collectively have bad black racial traits that results in them earning $64000 less per year than white male doctors. This reasoning has to suppose that black male doctors because they are black all share some behavioral traits that results in them getting paid less. How is this view point not the definition of racist?

This study looked at surveys that lasted 13 years and covered the salaries of 78,000 black and white doctors. But your uneducated "belief" that it couldn't be racism means what exactly?

the disparity is the proof. Unless you believe that black male doctors have a collective black racial behavior that is caused by their being black, it doesn't make sense that adjusting for specialty, hours, years of experience would result in black male doctor earning $64000 per year less than white doctors in the same specialty, who work similar hours, with similar years of experience. The only rational explanation given American society and all the other longstanding huge racial disparities that exist is racism. The only way around that conclusion is to believe that there is some collective black racial trait within black doctors that would explain that disparity.

It is almost impossible to find one area of racial parity in American society. I am being serious. From employment to incarceration, to home ownership, to wealth, to income, to life expectancy, to education, to access to health care, to access to capital for businesses, to buying a car, to renting apartments, to the likelihood of living in a high pollution area, etc, there are huge racial disparities that exist. A non racist nation wouldn't keep reproducing these huge racial disparities decade after decade.

There was a study of American children from 1989 to 2015, where they tracked the income of their parents and their income as adults, and they found that black male children no matter their parent's income did worse and were more likely to end up in poverty as adults when compared to white male children born to parents with the same income.

Extensive Data Shows Punishing Reach of Racism for Black Boys

A study of 20 million children shows the fragility of the American Dream.

www.nytimes.com

Black boys raised in America, even in the wealthiest families and living in some of the most well-to-do neighborhoods, still earn less in adulthood than white boys with similar backgrounds, according to a sweeping new study that traced the lives of millions of children.
White boys who grow up rich are likely to remain that way. Black boys raised at the top, however, are more likely to become poor than to stay wealthy in their own adult households.

Yes, the medical industry is racist and pays black doctors less.

waaaaahh racism waaaaahh
Get a grip pal.

 

[It will be fine]

Black individuals decided to accept less pay than their white counter parts on average is what the data shows. Not a cabal of racists running our medical industry making sure blacks make less.
Just like women decided to accept less pay than their male counter parts.

I don’t get why individual choices are so hard for you people to understand. Everything has to be group identity with you and racist conspiracy theories.

Lol. This is arguably the dumbest argument I’ve heard from a conservative viewpoint. It’s just a coincidence that black workers get paid less. They all individually choose to accept less pay. How many times would a person need to get hit in the head with a rock to believe this?

 

[Lineandinitial]

Lol. This is arguably the dumbest argument I’ve heard from a conservative viewpoint. It’s just a coincidence that black workers get paid less. They all individually choose to accept less pay. How many times would a person need to get hit in the head with a rock to believe this?

You're all O'Vah

 

[El Correcto]

Lol. This is arguably the dumbest argument I’ve heard from a conservative viewpoint. It’s just a coincidence that black workers get paid less. They all individually choose to accept less pay. How many times would a person need to get hit in the head with a rock to believe this?

Well where is your proof the people that hire these individuals are racist?

 

[El Correcto]

Just because on average black people make less, doesn’t mean all black people make less.

 

[Poop Head]

Black people make less cuz they do less work. Same goes for women.

 

[burrheadd]

Black people make less cuz they do less work. Same goes for women.

 

[Box Ox]

Black people make less cuz they do less work. Same goes for women.

 

[Old Man Jingles]

Black individuals decided to accept less pay than their white counter parts on average is what the data shows. Not a cabal of racists running our medical industry making sure blacks make less.
Just like women decided to accept less pay than their male counter parts.

I don’t get why individual choices are so hard for you people to understand. Everything has to be group identity with you and racist conspiracy theories.

Now that's damn funny! LOL
I'm jealous!

 

[El Correcto]

Now that's damn funny! LOL
I'm jealous!

What’s funny is thinking racism is behind everything that goes wrong in black people’s lives. They are responsible for accepting less pay at the end of the day. Doctors negotiate their own wages. If you are employing a specialist who agrees to work for less, are you going to say wait no let me give you an extra $30,000 year because you are black and that’s what the white one we hired makes?
No you’re gunna say welcome aboard and enjoy savings that $30,000 a year.

Salary negotiations: Advice for female physicians who want equitable pay

There are more women in medicine than ever before, but in study after study, female physicians still earn less—sometimes a lot less—than their male counterparts. | There are more women in medicine than ever before, but women physicians still earn less than their male counterparts. One way women...

www.fiercehealthcare.com

 

[El Correcto]

When I was in driving school the black people that spoke Ebonics didn’t have to say their 5’s and 10’s word for word like the rest of us. The instructors who were black cut them a break.

Didn’t bother me at all, but you know if it was white instructors cutting white people a break and holding the rest of the races to a different standard those black people would of been screaming RACCCCCCISM!!!

 

[El Correcto]

They knew their 5’s and 10’s. They just weren’t saying them word for word perfectly like the rest of us and the instructor didn’t stop them when they messed up.

 

[vantexan]

Lol. This is arguably the dumbest argument I’ve heard from a conservative viewpoint. It’s just a coincidence that black workers get paid less. They all individually choose to accept less pay. How many times would a person need to get hit in the head with a rock to believe this?

Have you not noticed that Asians and Whites are being excluded from Ivy League schools to make way for other minorities with lower test scores? Could it be that black doctors get paid less because they're less capable on average? The ones who are more capable, like Ben Carson, I'm assuming, get paid very well. But this is a racial issue, so I withdraw the question.

 

[It will be fine]

Have you not noticed that Asians and Whites are being excluded from Ivy League schools to make way for other minorities with lower test scores? Could it be that black doctors get paid less because they're less capable on average? The ones who are more capable, like Ben Carson, I'm assuming, get paid very well. But this is a racial issue, so I withdraw the question.

You think black people are worse doctors because they are black? Cool totally racist theory you have there.

 

[vantexan]

You think black people are worse doctors because they are black? Cool totally racist theory you have there.

No, I'm saying if less capable people with lower test scores are given a pass to address inequities then do you expect them to perform at the same level as those, no matter what the color, who achieved higher grades and scores? Recently saw where the issue of too many white pilots was being addressed by lowering standards so there could be more minority pilots. When I fly a Mexican airline I don't worry about the pilots being Mexican. I assume the pilots are the best available, with extensive training and proven capability. If I see a minority pilot on an American airline I assume the same. Suddenly we're faced with very capable pilots being forced out in favor of those who's qualifications may not be as good but they fit the right racial profile. This is nuts and will probably get people killed.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

You think black people are worse doctors because they are black? Cool totally racist theory you have there.

It's a study that set out to find racism so that's what it did. All you radical leftists have is circular logic. The myth of systemic racism is just a part of your religion now.

 

[It will be fine]

No, I'm saying if less capable people with lower test scores are given a pass to address inequities then do you expect them to perform at the same level as those, no matter what the color, who achieved higher grades and scores? Recently saw where the issue of too many white pilots was being addressed by lowering standards so there could be more minority pilots. When I fly a Mexican airline I don't worry about the pilots being Mexican. I assume the pilots are the best available, with extensive training and proven capability. If I see a minority pilot on an American airline I assume the same. Suddenly we're faced with very capable pilots being forced out in favor of those who's qualifications may not be as good but they fit the right racial profile. This is nuts and will probably get people killed.

You really believe the great replacement theory. You do know it’s white supremacist thought, right? Do you stop to question why you believe something when you are agreeing with Hitler?

 

[vantexan]

You really believe the great replacement theory. You do know it’s white supremacist thought, right? Do you stop to question why you believe something when you are agreeing with Hitler?

It's not about some theory. It's about stated goals by Left leaning advocates. Not to completely replace white people, but to reduce standards in order to make things "equitable." Plenty of minorities have proven they can meet and pass set standards in their fields so why is it necessary to dumb down standards, especially in fields where it can be life or death to do so?