Abortion

[DriveInDriveOut]

Interesting.

Let's use a little Reductio Ad Absurdum here.

Let's assume an imaginary law were to be passed that made it legal to kill Democrats.
Would killing them no longer be murder?

By definition, no, it would not be murder.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

I can respect the logic of your statement, and I appreciate the consistency of your stance.

But most people draw a distinction between the law as imposed by local politicians, and "higher law", or "natural law", or whatever you want to call it.

By your definition, no despot in history has ever murdered anyone, because "legally", they were entitled to kill people.
But most people would consider it murder anyway, by virtue of breaking those higher laws.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I can respect the logic of your statement, and I appreciate the consistency of your stance.

But most people draw a distinction between the law as imposed by local politicians, and "higher law", or "natural law", or whatever you want to call it.

By your definition, no despot in history has ever murdered anyone, because "legally", they were entitled to kill people.
But most people would consider it murder anyway, by virtue of breaking those higher laws.

What higher laws?

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

What higher laws?

For most, it would probably be all those pesky "Thou shalt not kill" bits floating around virtually all cultures.

Again, it's an understanding, not something I can "prove".
If you chose to ignore a common understanding of things like "killing is wrong", then you're lacking a foundation on which to debate any moral issue at all.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

If you chose to ignore a common understanding of things like "killing is wrong", then you're lacking a foundation on which to debate any moral issue at all.

Are you suggesting all killing is wrong?

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

Are you suggesting all killing is wrong?

Straw man argument.
Not wasting my time on this.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Not wasting my time on this.

Yes you are.

 

[floridays]

What higher laws?

Too easy, come up with a tougher question.

 

[vantexan]

What higher laws?

You know, the ones @monkeybutt wants for pot.

 

[PT Stewie]

Are you suggesting all killing is wrong?

The killing of innocents ?

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

The killing of innocents ?

Ttku

 

[Indecisi0n]

The killing of innocents ?

Not all are innocent.

 

[BrownFlush]

Interesting.

Let's use a little Reductio Ad Absurdum here.

Let's assume an imaginary law were to be passed that made it legal to kill Democrats.
Would killing them no longer be murder?

Please God...let it be true

 

[BrownFlush]

By definition, no, it would not be murder.

Guess you're consistent , no matter how stupid the line of reason gets.

 

[El Correcto]

Are you suggesting all killing is wrong?

Murder definately is and that’s what they are doing to da babies. :c

 

[BrownFlush]

Are you suggesting all killing is wrong?

Murder wrong. All killing not wrong.

 

[BrownFlush]

By definition, no, it would not be murder.

Tell us what he wins ,Johnny!

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Guess you're consistent , no matter how stupid the line of reason gets.

That all you got?

Guess you don't possess the mental capacity to keep up.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Murder wrong. All killing not wrong.

Abortion is not murder. Try to follow the conversation my guy.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

Murder definately is and that’s what they are doing to da babies. :c

Nope, you're wrong.