Abortion

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Same as you ... the resident know-it-all?
Not the resident know it all. I do however defend a woman's right to choose without interference from a bunch of religious zealots trying to use the hammer of law in order to forcibly impose their religious views on the American people for the purpose of controlling their behavior.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
Not the resident know it all. I do however defend a woman's right to choose without interference from a bunch of religious zealots trying to use the hammer of law in order to forcibly impose their religious views on the American people for the purpose of controlling their behavior.

so you hate religions and therefore promote the killing of babies as some cost effective solution.
and anyone who is opposed to infanticide is always some religious zealot and can not be someone who has seen the beauty of a baby being born.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
so you hate religions and therefore promote the killing of babies as some cost effective solution.
and anyone who is opposed to infanticide is always some religious zealot and can not be someone who has seen the beauty of a baby being born.
The beauty of childbirth is often quickly forgotten by the horror found in the conditions into which that child is born.
 

Old Man Jingles

Rat out of a cage
Not the resident know it all. I do however defend a woman's right to choose without interference from a bunch of religious zealots trying to use the hammer of law in order to forcibly impose their religious views on the American people for the purpose of controlling their behavior.
And yet, you have no problem supporting laws that reflect your zealous secular views.

Carry on!
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Not the resident know it all. I do however defend a woman's right to choose without interference from a bunch of religious zealots trying to use the hammer of law in order to forcibly impose their religious views on the American people for the purpose of controlling their behavior.
As opposed to a bunch of liberal fanatics using the hammer of law to forcibly impose their pagan views on the American people?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
So, when you remodel a bathroom you just happen to have $8500 lying around? I'm paying what he agreed to, $600 a month plus $30 monthly interest. Then paying off our car. Surely you've heard of car payments? Then for good measure paying off the stepdaughter's car so that we can get her into an apartment and sell our house. Heading back here then. The only people we'll be hiding from is folks like you. Hasta la Vista, baby!
Ok. So how's going to take care of all the unwed mothers you leave behind if in the meantime you succeed in overturning Roe vs. Wade.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
No one's forcing anybody to get an abortion nor is anybody being forced to carry and unwanted or unintended pregnancy to term .
No, but you got it legalized. And your worst fear isn't that some poor girl will suffer financially, it's that there would no longer be an escape for irresponsible behavior.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
The guy who got her pregnant is held accountable by the state.
But in many cases who provides direct economic to ensure that the needs if the child are met?....The state. Every month my county newspaper publishes the names of the child support absconders the county has on record , page after page after page of them in a county with limited manpower to apprehend them. In addition the lower your income the lower the amount of child support you pay. I've encountered men who were paying as little as $25 a month in child support. How far's that going to go? I've seen guys quit their employment after having their pay checks attached for back child support or had their income tax refunds garnished.......And you actually think that overturning RvsW is going to change all this.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
But in many cases who provides direct economic to ensure that the needs if the child are met?....The state. Every month my county newspaper publishes the names of the child support absconders the county has on record , page after page after page of them in a county with limited manpower to apprehend them. In addition the lower your income the lower the amount of child support you pay. I've encountered men who were paying as little as $25 a month in child support. How far's that going to go? I've seen guys quit their employment after having their pay checks attached for back child support or had their income tax refunds garnished.......And you actually think that overturning RvsW is going to change all this.
You make it sound like all guys do this. Plenty don't. Again, for the millionth time, there will be a lot less of this when it's no longer legal to kill your baby. People can and will modify their behavior.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
You make it sound like all guys do this. Plenty don't. Again, for the millionth time, there will be a lot less of this when it's no longer legal to kill your baby. People can and will modify their behavior.
What makes you so certain of that ? Prohibition didn't stop people from drinking.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
What makes you so certain of that ? Prohibition didn't stop people from drinking.
Bad analogy. During those times most people married young and had kids they took care of. Truth is with the proliferation of drugs in the 60's you started seeing societal norms change. People started talking about "free love" only nothing is really free. But abortion gave them a way to do what they wanted without the burden of unwanted responsibility. You and I know the genie is out of the bottle and is likely to stay that way. But you want your conscience clear, and can't stand that I or anyone else point out the obvious. It's murder.
 
Top