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BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
But when you do please don't bring up any of that scientific Hocus pocus nonsense. I mean no one here wants to hear evidence based facts .
I think the challenge is to you also...you notice no one has disputed those four basic facts? These just skim the surface of the insurmountable proof of God.

I love scientific facts. In fact, much of scientific fact proves these simple four facts.
You evidently don't want to hear evidence based on facts.
 

newfie

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BrownArmy

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Prove it or explain please.

Here’s where our conversation has and will always breakdown.

You’re making assumptions about the fabric of our universe.

No one, as far as I can tell, is proposing that ‘something came from nothing’.

The entire design argument is a trope for people that assume if something is complicated, it must have been designed by a designer.

It’s far from clear that that’s evident.

If you study biology in a deep fashion, it becomes clear that evolution is the mechanism that got us where we are today.

Nature utilizes functional pathways that are advantageous...the same systems that work in the human body also work in ants, rabbits, plants, etc...evolution keeps the things that work. The things that don’t work don’t stay around.

There’s no conscious design there, it’s just a program set loose to try different outcomes.

You assume that someone or something must have created that, and that there must be a ‘designer’.

Maybe. Maybe not.

If you believe there must be a designer, that’s not a fact, that’s your opinion.

Science, as far as I can tell, has made no assertions about the ‘beginning’.
 

Indecisi0n

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I think the challenge is to you also...you notice no one has disputed those four basic facts? These just skim the surface of the insurmountable proof of God.

I love scientific facts. In fact, much of scientific fact proves these simple four facts.
You evidently don't want to hear evidence based on facts.
Oh really? Than who created God and Jesus ? Who was before them? And who created the people before God and before that person? Please do tell? Hurry my popcorn is getting cold .
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Let the first logical and rational great mind among us deny any of these basic facts and explain why any one of these four cannot be a fact.

Scientific Fact: Something cannot come from nothing.
Fact: Creation demands a Creator.
Fact: Design demands a Designer.
Fact: Every house has a builder.

Here’s where our conversation has and will always breakdown.

You’re making assumptions about the fabric of our universe.

No one, as far as I can tell, is proposing that ‘something came from nothing’.

The entire design argument is a trope for people that assume if something is complicated, it must have been designed by a designer.

It’s far from clear that that’s evident.

If you study biology in a deep fashion, it becomes clear that evolution is the mechanism that got us where we are today.

Nature utilizes functional pathways that are advantageous...the same systems that work in the human body also work in ants, rabbits, plants, etc...evolution keeps the things that work. The things that don’t work don’t stay around.

There’s no conscious design there, it’s just a program set loose to try different outcomes.

You assume that someone or something must have created that, and that there must be a ‘designer’.

Maybe. Maybe not.

If you believe there must be a designer, that’s not a fact, that’s your opinion.

Science, as far as I can tell, has made no assertions about the ‘beginning’.

Oh really? Than who created God and Jesus ? Who was before them? And who created the people before God and before that person? Please do tell? Hurry my popcorn is getting cold .
Still waiting.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Oh really? Than who created God and Jesus ? Who was before them? And who created the people before God and before that person? Please do tell? Hurry my popcorn is getting cold .
God is a Spirit . He is not Physical. He always was and always will be.
Difficult to grasp but easier than denying the facts of our existence and universe.
The physical must be created. God does not.
 

BrownArmy

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And who, good sir, wrote the program? :wink2:

I have no idea.

Would it bother you so much if we’re just ‘here’, no rhyme or reason?

The fact we’re having this conversation means only that.

If we weren’t here, we wouldn’t be having this conversation.

But it doesn’t necessarily follow that because we’re here, ‘someone’ or ‘something’ put us here.

That’s child’s logic.
 
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