About to file my first grievance

[Mynameismud]

Hi, I'm a part time package handler at my hub. When I signed up for the job I agreed to work the 2nd half shift which is 440am - 9am or 10am. Recently the last few weeks management has been telling us on our day 6 which is Friday night that all part time handlers are required to work day 1 (Sunday) or they initialize a new start time for us on day 2 usually from 10pm-1150pm depending on business needs. I have been repeativly reminded supervisors that I cannot work these hours as a part time employee as I have other life commitments. So today I go in at my normal schedule time at 440am, and was instructed to go to the office where I also met with two other part timers. The supervisor asked why we weren't here when scheduled (1130pm) and has threated us with disciplinary action if we do not show up tonight at 1150pm. I find this unfair and have spoke to other employees that believe it is wrong to punish us for having other responsibilities besides working when UPS wants us to work. We should not be treated as if we are disposable. Is this grounds for filing a grievance? My plan is to show up when I'm regularly scheduled at 440am knowing I'll be getting sent to the office. Should I make it clear I will be filing against said supervisor right then and there or?

 

[Maple Grove MN Driver]

You show up at your start time or you get fired.

You have a choice to make.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

Hi, I'm a part time package handler at my hub. When I signed up for the job I agreed to work the 2nd half shift which is 440am - 9am or 10am. Recently the last few weeks management has been telling us on our day 6 which is Friday night that all part time handlers are required to work day 1 (Sunday) or they initialize a new start time for us on day 2 usually from 10pm-1150pm depending on business needs. I have been repeativly reminded supervisors that I cannot work these hours as a part time employee as I have other life commitments. So today I go in at my normal schedule time at 440am, and was instructed to go to the office where I also met with two other part timers. The supervisor asked why we weren't here when scheduled (1130pm) and has threated us with disciplinary action if we do not show up tonight at 1150pm. I find this unfair and have spoke to other employees that believe it is wrong to punish us for having other responsibilities besides working when UPS wants us to work. We should not be treated as if we are disposable. Is this grounds for filing a grievance? My plan is to show up when I'm regularly scheduled at 440am knowing I'll be getting sent to the office. Should I make it clear I will be filing against said supervisor right then and there or?

ask to have a shop steward present for/if the next meeting and explain your situation. Your word vs. theirs is an attempt to exploit and trap you.

 

[Mynameismud]

ask to have a shop steward present for/if the next meeting and explain your situation. Your word vs. theirs is an attempt to exploit and trap you.

There was a steward present when we were all sent to the office. That's what I am trying to avoid, i dont want to say certain things to management and end up regretting it.

 

[MECH-lift]

life commitments

working at UPS is either all or nothing , time to find another job

 

[Mynameismud]

You show up at your start time or you get fired.

You have a choice to make.

That's unacceptable though, how can they change things around for people at a moment's notice and expect them to sacrifice other responsibilities? I signed up to work a particular shift I'm going to work it. Nothing more unless its peak season.

 

[IVE GOTTA PACKAGE 4U]

That's unacceptable though, how can they change things around for people at a moment's notice and expect them to sacrifice other responsibilities? I signed up to work a particular shift I'm going to work it. Nothing more unless its peak season.

Work as directed or get fired. Your choice

 

[Mynameismud]

Thanks guys a lot of help here. Guess it's time to move on to a different career path. Your about as helpful as the supervisors.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

Hi, I'm a part time package handler at my hub. When I signed up for the job I agreed to work the 2nd half shift which is 440am - 9am or 10am. Recently the last few weeks management has been telling us on our day 6 which is Friday night that all part time handlers are required to work day 1 (Sunday) or they initialize a new start time for us on day 2 usually from 10pm-1150pm depending on business needs. I have been repeativly reminded supervisors that I cannot work these hours as a part time employee as I have other life commitments. So today I go in at my normal schedule time at 440am, and was instructed to go to the office where I also met with two other part timers. The supervisor asked why we weren't here when scheduled (1130pm) and has threated us with disciplinary action if we do not show up tonight at 1150pm. I find this unfair and have spoke to other employees that believe it is wrong to punish us for having other responsibilities besides working when UPS wants us to work. We should not be treated as if we are disposable. Is this grounds for filing a grievance? My plan is to show up when I'm regularly scheduled at 440am knowing I'll be getting sent to the office. Should I make it clear I will be filing against said supervisor right then and there or?

Sounds like your supervisor was actually being a decent guy by only telling you he'll write you up if you do it again...

What are you looking to grieve, specifically?
There is no "he can't change my start time from week to week" article in the contract.

 

[Mynameismud]

Sounds like your supervisor was actually being a decent guy by only telling you he'll write you up if you do it again...

What are you looking to grieve, specifically?
There is no "he can't change my start time from week to week" article in the contract.

Well I just find it fishy that he held the conversation with 2 other employees who also showed up at 440am. I know the one is planning to do the same thing and show up tomorrow same time despite what we were told. Guess they're just going to have to find 2 more new hires.

 

[Mynameismud]

It's like why do I get in trouble even though I'm a good employee. So done trying hard and getting slapped in the face one way or another.

 

[Turdferguson]

Thanks guys a lot of help here. Guess it's time to move on to a different career path. Your about as helpful as the supervisors.

Why? Because they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear?

 

[Operational needs]

Why? Because they didn't tell you what you wanted to hear?

Isn't it funny how people come here to ask a question then cop an attitude because they don’t get the answer they wanted to hear?

 

[Yeet]

Well I just find it fishy that he held the conversation with 2 other employees who also showed up at 440am.

What do you find fishy about that? He called the 3 people in the office who didn’t follow instruction. Should he have also chewed out the others who followed directions?

Guess they're just going to have to find 2 more new hires.

No offense man but you are a dime a dozen. There is a line around the block with people who would gladly take your job.

 

[Mynameismud]

My main point though is I signed up to work at 440am. NOT 1150pm. Managements communication with workers is horrible. I work the same time 4 out of the 5 days of the week. Then its somehow my fault when they want to change up the start times? How am I supposed to flex my life around that. There are better things than working here. This isn't my career choice. I selected these hours to work because they fit my schedule.

 

[BadIdeaGuy]

My main point though is I signed up to work at 440am. NOT 1150pm. Managements communication with workers is horrible. I work the same time 4 out of the 5 days of the week. Then its somehow my fault when they want to change up the start times? How am I supposed to flex my life around that. There are better things than working here. This isn't my career choice. I selected these hours to work because they fit my schedule.

You don't sign up for times. You sign up to go to work.
It sounds like you've made your choice.

 

[Operational needs]

My main point though is I signed up to work at 440am. NOT 1150pm. Managements communication with workers is horrible. I work the same time 4 out of the 5 days of the week. Then its somehow my fault when they want to change up the start times? How am I supposed to flex my life around that. There are better things than working here. This isn't my career choice. I selected these hours to work because they fit my schedule.

Adulting 101.....As an adult, everything isn’t going to conveniently fit into your schedule as you’d like it. That’s when you have to make hard decisions and adjustments.

 

[UnconTROLLed]

#1 in NE, your work week is 5 days consecutive. Your schedule should be posted a week prior. Start time changes must be 24hr notice? And your start time should not change +/- one hour increments.

Again get familiar with your local supplement and see if you can find any ammo

 

[UnconTROLLed]

the "suck it up" schtick is old hat and pretty dumb in this case.

 

[Mynameismud]

#1 in NE, your work week is 5 days consecutive. Your schedule should be posted a week prior. Start time changes must be 24hr notice? And your start time should not change +/- one hour increments.

Again get familiar with your local supplement and see if you can find any ammo

There is no schedule posted here where I'm at in PA. It's like you come in for your PCM and they tell you the start time or try to get 2nd half part timers like me to work 1st half. If there was a schedule every week I'd be more inclined to work the hours but when they just drop it on me last minute I cannot change my preexisting obligations.