Scottyhawk
What is it? A brown box. Duh
11 hour driving rule is not applicable to us, only the 14 and 60 are
All Air Drivers To Be Eliminated?
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opie
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Most of the PM air jobs are 22.3 in my building. Saturdays used to rarely have a FTer working. But they have had trouble getting PTers to work Saturdays the last few years. So we used to have many FTers working Saturdays. In the last year they have gotten more PTers to drive Saturdays, so we aren't using as many FT drivers as before. They still need FTers, because there are some ground pickups from certain retailers which UPS arranged a Saturday ground pickup. They even started to do ground pickups from the UPS stores.
Billy Ray
God, help us all.....
We have a couple of areas with no commit time on NDA.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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Do those areas get Saturday delivery?
KOG72
I’m full of it
Couple of summers ago I ran some Saturday air for a guy that was out hurt,easy money just makes the weekend go by faster and that sucks.
Billy Ray
God, help us all.....
KOG72
I’m full of it
It would be nice to have one of those areas and delivering nda 's anytime
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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For the most part it is great. Every once in a while you may have to explain why their air was not delivered by 1030.
DumbTruckDriver
Allergic to cardboard.
It is nice. I had 11 different stops on Friday with a NDA, and not a single one was committed. Never had anyone complain about it.
KOG72
I’m full of it
A lot of customers do not even know they are getting nda's.Seems to me the only ones waiting on me are waiting for phones and money.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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I have lost track of how many times I have rushed to get a NDA delivered only to come back later that day only to see it still sitting there.
The big problem we have on Saturdays are the airs for non-committed areas. Our software does list the Saturday zips but does not prevent processing a Saturday air for a non-committed zip.
Mugarolla
Light 'em up!
You cannot drive more than 11 hours, if you are in a P700 or larger. (The cut off weight is 10,001 pounds.) Package car drivers need not worry about 11 hours drive time. It is actual driving time, time behind the wheel.
Correct.
Because package car drivers will never, or rarely, exceed 11 hours of actual drive time. But, the rule still does apply.
The 11 hour rule is applicable, well, sort of. The rule still applies, but no package car driver is going to "drive" more than 11 hours, so, in a sense, it may not be applicable because package drivers do not have to worry about it.
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brownwings
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They already took a air driver shuttle route and gave it to the low man full time driver in my center. It's only on mondays but still....
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Air drivers usually cause a big hit to on road PPH
PT Car Washer
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You would know more about this than me, but I was under the impression Air Driver hours did not count against a Centers PPH. Why else would the Center run me a hundred miles to make service on a couple of misloaded surepost packages?
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
I was always told to use air drivers as an absolute last resort to make service because it does affect our PPH. It was the hot topic around my previous building for a while. I think we used AM air drivers for non shuttle/EAM work three times since Peak.
But you also have to take building size into account. Putting an air driver out in a 32 route, largely rural building is going to hurt a heck of a lot more than say a 100 driver building
Rack em
Made the Podium
We use 3 air/shuttle drivers 4 days a week at our center and a normal day is 20 routes...
FrigidFTSup
Resident Suit
Which is understandable if it is a normal thing.
PPH for this year is based off of last year. So if last year you ran 20 routes, and 2 air drivers you can in theory do the same thing again with an increase in stops/volumes. We traditionally never used air drivers for delivery and it hurt us because it meant we couldn't do it without essentially shooting ourselves in the foot.
