Unless your an actual ICE officer and it's your job, there's no other real reason to do it.
Arizona's anti-imigration law...
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dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
I am very glad to hear that
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
I am very glad to hear that
If they don't want to that's fine, but they don't need welfare either.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I would have no issues what so ever with supporting a sterilization program.
That sounds pretty cut and dried, yet when Jones asked you if you would be in favor of the govt sterilizing people against their will, you said:
No, I wouldn't.
Care to clarify your original statement?
That sounds pretty cut and dried, yet when Jones asked you if you would be in favor of the govt sterilizing people against their will, you said:
No, I wouldn't.
Care to clarify your original statement?
I'm reasonably sure that anyone who wants to, men and women both, can undergo voluntary sterilization. I know that at least in men it can be reversed.I think voluntary steralization would be great idea. If you could reverse it then i would be even better. I would bet there would be people lining up to get it done. The drawback would be more STDs though.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Sure, I have no problem with clarifying. I will use my state as an example. If AZ wanted to add an amendment to our welfare system requiring a person (woman would be the easiest example) to have her tubes tied to maintain certain welfare benefits, let's say after she has 3 kids in the welfare system. This is the type of scenario I was refering to. I think it is a fair trade and it would save the state potentially millions over the years. This is a very basic scenario. Their choice.
Lue C Fur
Evil member
Well you had to pay for it out of pocket if your poor since its not a normal procedure like removing your appendix so i would assume that the poor did not have the money to pay for it if the wanted to. I wonder now under Obamacare if they can get it done for free per taxpayers expense. I actually might be for that since that would save money in the long run and cut down on unwanted pregnecies and abortions.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Even scarier news out of Arizona this morning as Sheriff Joe has announced he is contemplating running for Governor. He may just ride the wave of voter sentiment all the way to the Capitol. I'll take a blind and clueless Governor (Patterson) over this guy any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
BTW, if this law is so perfect, why was it toned down yesterday?
BTW, if this law is so perfect, why was it toned down yesterday?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
You can put a shine on a turd but at the end of the day it still stinks.
This law promotes racial profiling.
This law promotes racial profiling.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
Could it be that they realized it was a flawed piece of legislation which would cost more in litigation than in the money saved by enforcing it?
Tensions are already high between the illegals and law enforcement and enacting this law will be akin to throwing gasoline on to a BBQ.
A deputy in Arizona was shot by a drug smuggler when he discovered bales of marijuana sitting in the desert and went to investigate.
Lue C Fur
Evil member
So if the anit imigration bill was not singed then the cop would have not been shot?
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
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dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Dave, I'm sure you didn't mean it this way but it sounds like you are saying the blame for the shooting of our Pinal County Deputy is to be blamed on this new legislation. Just my gut reaction to your statement but I really don't think you meant it that way.
UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)
Well-Known Member
I didn't but I can see where this law can only serve to add fuel to the fire.
I admit to not having a player in the game but I still see this law as nothing but legalized racial profiling.
dilligaf
IN VINO VERITAS
Someone has to do something and it appears that our current 'el presidente' is abandoning us regardless of what he said in his campaign.
