Arizona's anti-imigration law...

[moreluck]

You certainly would be the one to understand "senseless" !

 

[KingofBrown]

LOL. A bad reputation by Lucy. That's what happens when you get ran out of arguments. Next!

 

[KingofBrown]

Watch out, moreluck, you can get a bad reputation for that.

You certainly would be the one to understand "senseless" !

 

[over9five]

LOL. A bad reputation by Lucy. That's what happens when you get ran out of arguments.

Oh. I thought large font was what you get when you run out of arguments.

 

[KingofBrown]

LOL. I don't get it, what's the problem with large fonts? That doesn't say anything to me. Is there a rule about it in the Terms of Service?

Oh. I thought large font was what you get when you run out of arguments.

 

[KingofBrown]

LOL. I think the problem is not the size of the font, the one on the top is Tahoma, the one on the bottom is Verdana; both are Size 4. But I still see no point to this. Or what the problem is or why the size matters in this post. And why you guys make such a big deal out of it.

In this country if you do not think that the police can question you if they have a reasonable suspicion that you committed a crime than you are living a fantasy. If you do not think that you have to identify yourself to the police under those same circumstances you are beyond a fantasy. You should not generalize saying “in this country.” Because states have different laws about the identification procedure you claim. Here’s the one from AZ, it seems you haven’t read it, either:

13-2412.Refusing to provide truthful name when lawfully detained; classification
A. It is unlawful for a person, after being advised that the person's refusal to answer is unlawful, to fail or refuse to state the person's true full name on request of a peace officer who has lawfully detained the person based on reasonable suspicion that the person has committed, is committing or is about to commit a crime. A person detained under this section shall state the person's true full name, but shall not be compelled to answer any other. Where do you see a Tribal ID Card in this Statute? Or even a Driver License? Or at least a form of an ID Card?

And I ask you, how can an officer “reasonable suspect” I’m about to commit the crime of Illegal Immigration as you claim to without racial profiling? Because I didn’t show a Driver License, or a Tribal Identification card?

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Watch out, moreluck, you can get a bad reputation for that.

Be careful--she's a tradition around here. (I mean, she is a golden ticket member, after all)

 

[Lue C Fur]

LOL. A bad reputation by Lucy. That's what happens when you get ran out of arguments. Next!

Not worth my time to argue with you...and you would get more respect from people that dont agree with you if you would learn some forum etiquette. But im sure you could care less so...

 

[KingofBrown]

LOL. I got no personal problems with anybody.

Be careful--she's a tradition around here. (I mean, she is a golden ticket member, after all)

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

LOL. I got no personal problems with anybody.

Keep using large fonts and calling Trplnkl "Cowboy" and that may change.

 

[KingofBrown]

And so would you, Lucy. And neither do I want to argue with you if you're not talking about the law. If you want to make it personal, I still see no need to make this a personal issue.

Not worth my time to argue with you...and you would get more respect from people that dont agree with you if you would learn some forum etiquette. But im sure you could care less so...

 

[KingofBrown]

The Texan, or The Cowboy, is another story.

"Respect commands itself and it can neither be given nor withheld when it is due."

And that goes for you, or anyone, too. I've treated you, others and the Texan, accordingly.

Keep using large fonts and calling Trplnkl "Cowboy" and that may change.

 

[Lue C Fur]

And so would you, Lucy. And neither do I want to argue with you if you're not talking about the law. If you want to make it personal, I still see no need to make this a personal issue.

Thanks for downsizing your font...its appreciated.

 

[moreluck]

If you are curious about the golden ticket reference......it's because back in 2000 when UPS went public and the stock doubled, we were afforded the opportunity to retire much earlier and much richer than originally planned. I definitely felt like Charlie winning the golden ticket. It worked out well because we ended up getting our granddaughters for a couple years and were able to spend 'full time' with them during very formative years (K-2).

If "old" denotes a tradition, then I am. If time on BC denotes tradition then Tie and I are. So I'm a tradition, a golden ticket member and a pretty nice person to know.....at least that's what my friends say.

 

[av8torntn]

[ If English is your native language you need some college classes to know how to read between the sentences, the Cowboy that seems that English is his native language doesn’t know what this means, I hope you will.[/FONT][/B] And no, English is not my second language it is my third one, but I consider it my first language along my native one.[/COLOR][/SIZE]
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Queenofbrown please use coherent sentences. I have no idea what this means.

 

[av8torntn]

[COLOR=#333333[B]And I ask you, how can an officer “reasonable suspect” I’m about to commit the crime of Illegal Immigration as you claim to without racial profiling? Because I didn’t show a Driver License, or a Tribal Identification card?[/B]

queenofbrown I ask you what the heck is "reasonable suspect I'm about to commit the crime of illegal immigration" have to do with this law or racial profiling? I know the answer already(it's nothing in case you don't know).

 

[av8torntn]

As I have mentioned this several times, prejudice is not the only problem with the law, but it seems that this is the thing that stirs you guys up and it’s the only one you try to debate.

Well there we have it. This means you have lied several time then as there is no prejudice in this law as it can be applied to any person that is in that state illegally.

 

[KingofBrown]

LOL. You’re getting more creative aren’t you? With such remarks, it’s clear your frustration is taking over. Why do you guys keep trying to make this a personal issue when you’re out of arguments? But, don’t worry I don’t take it personal with any girl.

Queenofbrown please use coherent sentences. I have no idea what this means.

 

[KingofBrown]

If you know the answers of your senseless questions, then why do you ask? If you can’t understand the term “Reasonable Suspect” or think that it doesn’t have to do anything with SB1070, then you really have a defficiency. I can’t address it, you need a proffesional for that.

queenofbrown I ask you what the heck is "reasonable suspect I'm about to commit the crime of illegal immigration" have to do with this law or racial profiling? I know the answer already(it's nothing in case you don't know).

 

[av8torntn]

But your own words side with the federal government: "they already give the states the authority to investigate and notify the feds of immigration violations." Does this not imply that the federal government has the right to rescind that authority as well as deny states the right to enforce immigration policy?

That's basically the question asked by the reporter in the video that I posted and Gibbs had no answer. Do you? I do not.

What the federal government is basically saying is that since they control immigration only they can enforce immigration laws. Are they willing to extend that argument to all federal laws? Are you? Do you think that they are willing to extend that to say even the drug laws? What about bankruptcy laws? What about counterfeiting laws?

Can the federal government pass a law and then say one state must enforce it but another is prohibited from enforcing it? I don't think that they can.


This is an interesting argument they are going to try and make. I see no way for the Feds to win without serious blowback. This law that has all you guys in an uproar is the federal law. Arizona is not creating any immigration policy or law. All it basically does is prevent local cities from being "sanctuary" cities. It also requires employers to use everify which other states already have laws in place.