Everything below is not proven factual, just my understanding on how all this stuff works, so take it with a grain of salt.
I'm sure you may be sick of this, and I apologize for dragging it around, but again, I'm on the same team... and I feel any info is pertinent and just want to get my thoughts out which are also based on having a small background in electronics.
The IR is just a flashlight basically, to aid the camera (sensor) in low light. There are 8 of them, 4 on each side of the device which are behind the darkened plastic. You can try this, take your phone and use the video feature and point it at the Lytx when dark outside, maybe even in the day, but you will likely see the IR lights as the digital sensor can see IR, but not human eyes. If someone was in a dim room and used a flashlight to illuminate someones face, could the person holding the flashlight be able to tell if the subject's eyes were open if the one holding the light closed their eyes? That's my point I'm trying to show...the Lytx uses a camera, which has been dubbed as a "sensor" to process the driver's movements.
This is what the camera sees and is a web pic, but the subject's face has been blurred for privacy I'm sure. This is no 'IR", this is full HD video from the camera....oh, sorry..."sensor" Are you telling me UPS really "disabled" this feature? How else would the device work? This is what I want to be proved wrong on.
Is this what Lytx really gives UPS??? Come on, this is a rendering of how Lytx uses Ai to overlay the stored images to the driver's images, like the little boxes on a camera phone to show a focal point.
I'm also fine with the fact UPS receives NO pics or video from the third party and ONLY text of a distracted event.....but let's be real here....that's very fishy.
How did Lytx do this? well, likely they had someone sit in the driver's seat, and make movements like holding a phone, seat belt on and off, holding a drink, etc. then store those images to use the Ai to compare against the driver's movements. The same way a police license plate reader "sees" a plate that's flagged, it's compared to a stored image.
Also, UPS is SURELY not going to use any video they may have of the driver in ANY circumstance whether to prove guilt or innocence because that would confirm there is a "camera" inside the vehicle. Oh, sorry...."sensor"
The way any digital camera works, is a lens focuses an image on a 'sensor", which has replaced film as the receiving media.
this is the camera lens...
This is the digital sensor behind it
When you point your cell phone at someone to take a pic or video, you can see the live feed before you take the pic correct? The little boxes mark the faces, this is the image from the sensor...Lytx works the same way. The only thing Lytx has stated they did was disable the "recording" feature, the Drive Cam needs the video to utilize the devices own stored internal images to compare to the driver's movements. There has been NO MENTION of Lytx not disabling the internal video feed of the camera "sensor" so that it cannot be viewed or recorded by a third party. All UPS needs is the multiple distractions and hard braking, lane departure warnings to finally say..."We need to see what's really going on" Then what's stopping them from viewing the feed? Has anyone proven there is no live viewing feature...something that Lytx's own website states these devices have?
This is why we had a few instances of drivers placing a something over the lens and they were in the office for blocking the "sensor"..or..."camera", no, sensor...lol. I'm sure the drivecam kicked back a message stating the camera was blocked to the third party and reported to UPS.
The fact it takes a few days is also crazy. yes, I'm aware of that, but if I wanted to use my iPhone to send a Ring camera footage from my home to a friend, it would take a minute, or maybe less. UPS can say I need camera # XXXX on this date and time and they could send the footage in a matter of minutes. maybe there is a long que but I don't see how their info could not be pulled up either by UPS themselves within a matter of minutes...safe bet it needs to be scrubbed and analyzed.
my local has done and been told it’s not an issue. And to let it go. The camera is deactivated.
Same here, but the "deactivated" part I believe is what's misleading and has been lost on translation. What's deactivated according to Lytx, is the "recording ability" and I want to speculate this has been improperly morphged into the "camera being disabled"
If there’s any evidence that they have access to some inward facing camera, I’ve never seen, heard or even been aware of any evidence of it. Does that mean I trust UPS? of course not these devices are not going away.
Does having access trump the fact it's even in the vehicles? If so then wouldn't that be a breach of contract?
Thanks again
@Thebrownblob for taking time to interact, I'm not doubting what you know, or saying you are wrong, and realize you are also at the receiving end of the info we receive. I just have questions about these things and what they have told us doesn't jive with the reality of their nature.
Just food for thought.
BTW, UPS doesn't need Lytx for seatbelt warning, lane departure, following distance..they already have this. If UPS says we follow the laws regarding phone usage, why do they need Lytx? I do get it though.....it's a mountain of paperwork that gets ignored, but the somehow IMO...snuck them in the cabs.
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