Dispatch said Trailers DON'T Need Load Bars

[DOK]

Weak UPSers allow UPS to do as it pleases. Fixed it for you….

Not to change the subject, but I always wondered how the feeder driver would know if the the trailer was over dot weight? We don’t weigh trailers, feeder drivers just told to hook and go, what if he’s asked to enter as weigh station and is overweight?

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

Not to change the subject, but I always wondered how the feeder driver would know if the the trailer was over dot weight? We don’t weigh trailers, feeder drivers just told to hook and go, what if he’s asked to enter as weigh station and is overweight?

One did by me long ago by telling the loader no more than 45 boxes for somewhere

 

[I have NOT been lurking]

I put a bar in just for you

 

[Johney]

Not to change the subject, but I always wondered how the feeder driver would know if the the trailer was over dot weight? We don’t weigh trailers, feeder drivers just told to hook and go, what if he’s asked to enter as weigh station and is overweight?

I've gotten stopped numerous times at the weigh station with overweight trailers on the tractor drive axle(single screw). Due to a suspension company we picked up. The reload would load it all in the front. Usually sat there for an hour while they wrote up the fine for UPS. Always asked if I'd like to readjust the load to distribute the weight. No thank you. Reload was told by Feeder dispatch to not do this which they completely ignored.

 

[Ya Dad]

Just got off the phone with David Ford from the FMCSA MIDWESTERN SERVICE CENTER (copy paste, didn't mean to scream it lol)

I asked him for clarification on Title 49 393.106(b) regarding load bars. He said if the trailer is 100% and/or is moved on property, it doesn't need need one. If it goes on the road and is less than 100% full, it needs one.

aka shifters don't need to be so anal retentive about load bars from a legal perspective. However, outbound drivers have the right to make sure their load (as long as it is less than 100%) has a load bar or strap.

 

[Johney]

Just got off the phone with David Ford from the FMCSA MIDWESTERN SERVICE CENTER (copy paste, didn't mean to scream it lol)

I asked him for clarification on Title 49 393.106(b) regarding load bars. He said if the trailer is 100% and/or is moved on property, it doesn't need need one. If it goes on the road and is less than 100% full, it needs one.

aka shifters don't need to be so anal retentive about load bars from a legal perspective. However, outbound drivers have the right to make sure their load (as long as it is less than 100%) has a load bar or strap.

Now to me that makes no sense, wouldn't you want a load bar or strap on a 100% load? Seeing as when they open the door crap doesn't fall out?

 

[Well-Known Member]

Just got off the phone with David Ford from the FMCSA MIDWESTERN SERVICE CENTER (copy paste, didn't mean to scream it lol)

I asked him for clarification on Title 49 393.106(b) regarding load bars. He said if the trailer is 100% and/or is moved on property, it doesn't need need one. If it goes on the road and is less than 100% full, it needs one.

aka shifters don't need to be so anal retentive about load bars from a legal perspective. However, outbound drivers have the right to make sure their load (as long as it is less than 100%) has a load bar or strap.

Correct.


Issue 2: § 393.102(d) – Equivalent means of securement.

Agency Policy: The means of securing articles of cargo are
considered to meet the performance requirements under
§393.102(a) if the cargo is:

1. Immobilized; or

2. Fills a sided vehicle that has walls of adequate
strength, and each article of cargo within the vehicle
is in contact with, or sufficiently close to a wall or
other articles, so that it cannot shift or tip if those
articles are also unable to shift or tip; or

3. Secured in accordance with the applicable
requirements of §§393.104 through 393.136.

Discussion: Currently, §393.102(d) states that loads that
are immobilized, or secured in accordance with the
applicable requirements of §§393.104 through 393.136 are
considered to meet the performance requirements. Certain
industry groups believe §393.102(d) should be revised to
provide a third option regarding equivalent means of
securement that would satisfy the performance criteria.
They believe that if the cargo fills a sided vehicle equipped
with walls of adequate strength, and each article of cargo
is positioned so it does not shift or tip inside the vehicle,
the loading arrangement or securement system should be
considered to satisfy the performance requirements under §393.102.

FMCSA intended the term “immobilized” to be construed
to include what the industry recommends as a third option.
However, the agency acknowledges that the absence of an
explicit reference to situations in which the cargo fills a
sided vehicle may result in inconsistent enforcement
practices. Therefore, enforcement officials should construe
the rule to mean that when cargo fills a sided vehicle with
walls of adequate strength, it is considered to meet the
performance criteria.

 

[Ou812fu]

Trained to "work as directed". Do what thry tell you to do.

@Ya Dad
You think not using the bars to be a major issue?

Unless it is unsafe or dishonest.