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[Ron Carey lives on]

Distrction tactics are usually used by management. RTW is the issue of the thread

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[Ron Carey lives on]

I guess if we get our hands on some get togethers at the Koch Bros mansion with cigars and Brandy celebrating another wage decrease in one of the states they own

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[Ron Carey lives on]

We could cut and paste all day. Your stale, misguided defense of RTW consists of something you Don't like about Dems. Start another thread if you concede on RTW

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[Ron Carey lives on]

I know the perfect name for your new website. Union members against Unions. Or you can just call it, I want a job at Fed ex

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[satellitedriver]

If Union's are the backbone of American workers, why is the membership so low in the private sector and so high in the government sector.
In 2013 there were 14.5 million members in the U.S., compared with 17.7 million in 1983. In 2013, the percentage of workers belonging to a union was 11.3%, compared to 20.1% in 1983. The rate for the private sector was 6.7%, and for the public sector 35.3%.
All those evil corporations and non union workers pay the salaries, via taxes, for the majority of union workers in America.
11% of the working population in America is not a mandate for reform.
Hell, 50% of Americans do not even pay any Tax.
So, the true majority of non-union workers and company's in America already fund the unions with forced dues.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

Forced dues would require slavery. Quit. Totally expected from a satellite puppet

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[Ron Carey lives on]

But you don't want to quit. Ot after 8 doubletime on sun. Everything unions members have faught for, 40 hour week. Or maybe you think Ups loves you, for the hard off the clock work you do. Oh yea I know

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[Ron Carey lives on]

Do some research on what you have and why. Who has faught it and who has been for it. A satellite driver, probably low seniority, low IQ, Less experience with negotiating with Ups, grow up

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[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

Hell, 50% of Americans do not even pay any Tax.

This is a common myth as they do pay tax throughout the year only to get it all back (and then some) when they file their tax returns.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

This is a common myth as they do pay tax throughout the year only to get it all back (and then some) when they file their tax returns.

...no myth. End result is they don't pay taxes, that's what he was referring to.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

Do some research on what you have and why. Who has faught it and who has been for it. A satellite driver, probably low seniority, low IQ, Less experience with negotiating with Ups, grow up

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No one from the past has ever shown up to run my route of make my house payment. But those that have fought for better wages & benefits are the first ones getting screwed by today's union voters electing people that are taking our benefits in the name of social equality. When did the union become proponents of expanding & growing the welfare state?

I never understood why union workers were so eager to sacrifice more of our earnings for this faux historical movement of social justice except that they didn't understand it & were just following orders.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

...no myth. End result is they don't pay taxes, that's what he was referring to.

So you are saying that they have zero taxes withheld throughout the year?

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

The only people that have been hurt by RTW legislation are...well, nobody. Workers have only lost out on jobs in states where their elected leaders have FAILED to adopt it.

The only people that have been hurt by the ACA is everyone that works for a living. We are on the collection end of healthcare reform, not the receiving end. They lied.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

So you are saying that they have zero taxes withheld throughout the year?

No. And neither was the other poster.

 

[UpstateNYUPSer(Ret)]

No. And neither was the other poster.

"Paying no taxes" implies that they do not pay any taxes period----not that they pay in throughout the year and get it all back (and then some) when they file.

 

[Atomic_Smurf]

"Paying no taxes" implies that they do not pay any taxes period----not that they pay in throughout the year and get it all back (and then some) when they file.

There was no "implied" message, only stated that they "pay no taxes". "Withholding" & "paying" are two different things. It really isn't that difficult.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

The other poster got shot down, cause he works off the clock gets 20 more stops added to him, and then wants to file a 9.5. By the way smurf if you refuse to pay dues in a rtw state. Can you run for union office, vote for a contract or vote for local officials

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[Atomic_Smurf]

The other poster got shot down, cause he works off the clock gets 20 more stops added to him, and then wants to file a 9.5. By the way smurf if you refuse to pay dues in a rtw state. Can you run for union office, vote for a contract or vote for local officials

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The other posters 9.5 issues had nothing to do with upstateNYUPSers inability to comprehend a simple statement.

And if a worker feels so alienated by his union that they chooses to stop paying union dues then I doubt they are interested in being allowed to vote in their elections, much less run for office. Voting on contracts doesn't do much good when your reps tell you "that's all your gonna get", then either force it on you or hold out back pay till the majority of union voters can't stand it & cave. Like it or not, your money speaks louder than your vote & without RTW workers are left with a very muffled voice.

 

[Ron Carey lives on]

So you try to fix the union by pouting like my 4 year old girl. Good plan. " I won't vote, I am mad, nobody likes me" .:''( you are a proactive dude smurf

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[Ron Carey lives on]

But I want my benefits, but im not participating

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