BIDEN GETS INVOLVED IN CERTAIN MASS SHOOTINGS, OTHERS-NOT SO MUCH?

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vantexan

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DriveInDriveOut said:
Has anyone ever found a dead body in your car?
You know, it's hard to feel sorry for people that die after living their lives surrounded by violent criminals.

Keep crying your BLM tears my left wing friend.
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Did a quick search and found that between 2010 and 2016 81 civilians and 13 police officers were killed executing no knock warrants. That included small children and in one case a woman in her 90's who fired one time and the police fired 39 times in return. It's a real issue when you're on the receiving end. Especially if the police get the wrong address.
 
UnionStrong

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
vantexan said:
Did a quick search and found that between 2010 and 2016 81 civilians and 13 police officers were killed executing no knock warrants. That included small children and in one case a woman in her 90's who fired one time and the police fired 39 times in return. It's a real issue when you're on the receiving end. Especially if the police get the wrong address.
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Meh…
 
DriveInDriveOut

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
vantexan said:
Did a quick search and found that between 2010 and 2016 81 civilians and 13 police officers were killed executing no knock warrants. That included small children and in one case a woman in her 90's who fired one time and the police fired 39 times in return. It's a real issue when you're on the receiving end. Especially if the police get the wrong address.
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Cool.
The police knocked though.
And they were at the right address.
So it's irrelevant.
 
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vantexan

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DriveInDriveOut said:
Since when what?
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That they are always people who don't want to be taken alive? Have you noticed how our government has sent in dozens of heavily armed officers in body armor to arrest people who happen to be of the other political persuasion but are absolutely no threat to the officers? We should put limits on the use of force, not expand it. I watched a video of a family in Chicago who had their apartment door kicked in by about a dozen officers who were on the wrong floor. A couple of the officers forgot about their body cams and were in the kitchen trying to decide how to cover up their mistake. They turned the apartment upside down in hopes of.finding something they could charge the man with. He was handcuffed and the family.sat down with the kids crying through the whole thing. In another video watched officers kick in the door and pointed guns at a woman who had just gotten out of the shower and hadn't heard the knocking. They were not only at the wrong apartment but in the wrong building too! She was crying hysterically. So yes, I want limits on what cops can do because.if you're going to shoot on sight then you better make damn sure you are shooting.the right person and they are at least pointing a gun at you. Otherwise we have out of control death squads.
 
UnionStrong

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
vantexan said:
That they are always people who don't want to be taken alive? Have you noticed how our government has sent in dozens of heavily armed officers in body armor to arrest people who happen to be of the other political persuasion but are absolutely no threat to the officers? We should put limits on the use of force, not expand it. I watched a video of a family in Chicago who had their apartment door kicked in by about a dozen officers who were on the wrong floor. A couple of the officers forgot about their body cams and were in the kitchen trying to decide how to cover up their mistake. They turned the apartment upside down in hopes of.finding something they could charge the man with. He was handcuffed and the family.sat down with the kids crying through the whole thing. In another video watched officers kick in the door and pointed guns at a woman who had just gotten out of the shower and hadn't heard the knocking. They were not only at the wrong apartment but in the wrong building too! She was crying hysterically. So yes, I want limits on what cops can do because.if you're going to shoot on sight then you better make damn sure you are shooting.the right person and they are at least pointing a guy at you. Otherwise we have out of control death squads.
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TLDR
 
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Box Ox

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DriveInDriveOut said:
Of course it should be really hard to get a no knock warrant, but statistics about people dying aren't really a good argument. You get the no knock warrant because it's people who refuse to be taken alive.
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UnionStrong said:
Bleeding hearts act like it’s routine, it’s not.
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vantexan said:
Shouldn't happen at all if there's a chance innocent bystanders could be harmed.
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Not a fan of no-knock warrants but they've likely prevented more shootouts and innocent lives lost than they've caused.
 
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vantexan

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Box Ox said:
Not a fan of no-knock warrants but they've likely prevented more shootouts and innocent lives lost than they've caused.
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5 states, including Florida, don't allow them. Something like.17 other states require a judge to sign off on them. If it's a necessary evil there should.be some redundancy built in to make sure the right person is being served at the right address. And someone calling.out isn't a reason to open fire.
 
UnionStrong

UnionStrong

Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
vantexan said:
5 states, including Florida, don't allow them. Something like.17 other states require a judge to sign off on them. If it's a necessary evil there should.be some redundancy built in to make sure the right person is being served at the right address. And someone calling.out isn't a reason to open fire.
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5 out of 50. That’s a mandate.
 
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