Bill Barr

[Box Ox]

So Trump was paying off hookers for decades, the super sly Cohen kept it all secret and Melania didn’t know about it? That means Melania is dumber than a bag of hammers. Why do you hate the First Lady?

I think she probably did know but didn’t want the whole world to know she’s a perpetual . (was automatically changed to “”. Didn’t write that).

 

[floridays]

I think she probably did know but didn’t want the whole world to know she’s a perpetual . (was automatically changed to “”. Didn’t write that).

Are you guys talking about JFK and Jackie, maybe Bill and Hillary, quite possibly FDR and Eleanor?
Do you need more? @It will be fine, tell me when you've had enough.

 

[Box Ox]

Are you guys talking about JFK and Jackie, maybe Bill and Hillary, quite possibly FDR and Eleanor?
Do you need more? @It will be fine, tell me when you've had enough.

Sure. No reason to believe they weren't all embarrassed too.

 

[newfie]

So Trump was paying off hookers for decades, the super sly Cohen kept it all secret and Melania didn’t know about it? That means Melania is dumber than a bag of hammers. Why do you hate the First Lady?

that was a nice little sidetrack .

you already know that, Cohen testified to this why are you now trying to ignore he said it. because it does not help your campaign finance crime analogy

 

[newfie]

I think she probably did know but didn’t want the whole world to know she’s a perpetual . (was automatically changed to “”. Didn’t write that).

she pretty much admitted she knew in one of her interviews , hillary also knew about bills trolleps and didnt care. the folks we "admire" live by different rules

 

[Box Ox]

she pretty much admitted she knew in one of her interviews , hillary also knew about bills trolleps and didnt care. the folks we "admire" live by different rules

Women probably know more about what they're getting into when they get involved with rich/wealthy/powerful men than we give them credit for. It's what they get in return that's most important to them. Think Melania's parents are now US citizens as well. Might not have happened if Melania hadn't been OK with Donald putting his pecker in whatever he pleased.

 

[floridays]

Women probably know more about what they're getting into when they get involved with rich/wealthy/powerful men than we give them credit for. It's what they get in return that's most important to them. Think Melania's parents are now US citizens as well. Might not have happened if Melania hadn't been OK with Donald putting his pecker in whatever he pleased.

You're better than that, I'll give you a pass on that.

 

[PTPunchingBag]

According to the report he tried


"
On June 17, 2017, the President called McGahn at home and directed him to call
the Acting Attorney General and say that the Special Counsel had conflicts of interest and must be
removed. McGahn did not carry out the direction, however, deciding that he would resign rather
than trigger what he regarded as a potential Saturday Night Massacre".



The Mueller report also has an "intent" section

"c. Intent. Substantial evidence indicates that the President's effort to have Sessions
limit the scope of the Special Counsel's investigation to future election interference was intended
to prevent further investigative scrutiny of the President' s and his campaign's conduct.
As previously described, see Volume TT, Section II.B, supra, the President knew that the
Russia investigation was focused in part on his campaign, and he perceived allegations of Russian
interference to cast doubt on the legitimacy of his election. The President further knew that the
investigation had broadened to include his own conduct and whether he had obstructed justice.
Those investigations would not proceed if the Special Counsel's jurisdiction were limited to future
election interference only.
The timing and circumstances of the President's actions support the conclusion that he
sought that result. The President's initial direction that Sessions should limit the Special Counsel's
investigation came just two days after the President had ordered McGahn to ~ave the Special
Counsel removed, which itself followed public reports that the President was personally under
investigation for obstruction of justice. The sequence of those events raises an inference that after
seeking to terminate the Special Counsel, the President sought to exclude his and his campaign's
conduct from the investigation's scope. The President raised the matter with Lewandowski again
on July 19, 2017, just days after emails and information about the June 9, 2016 meeting between
Russians and senior campaign officials had been publicly disclosed, generating substantial media
coverage and investigative interest.
The manner in which the President acted provides additional evidence of his intent. Rather
than rely on official channels, the President met with Lewandowski alone in the Oval Office. The
President selected a loyal "devotee" outside the White House to deliver the message, supporting
an inference that he was working outside White House channels, including McGahn, who had
previously resisted contacting the Department of Justice about the Special Counsel. The President
also did not contact the Acting Attorney General, who had just testified publicly that there was no
cause to remove the Special Counsel. Instead, the President tried to use Sessions to restrict and
redirect the Special Counsel's investigation when Sessions was recused and could not properly
take any action on it.
The July 19, 2017 events provide further evidence of the President's intent. The President
followed up with Lewandowski in a separate one-on-one meeting one month after he first dictated
the message for Sessions, demonstrating he still sought to pursue the request. And just hours after
Lewandowski assured the President that the message would soon be delivered to Sessions, the
President gave an unplanned interview to the New York Times in which he publicly attacked
Sessions and raised questions about his job security. Four days later, on July 22, 2017, the
President directed Priebus to obtain Sessions's resignation. That evidence could raise an inference
that the President wanted Sessions to realize that his job might be on the line as he evaluated
whether to comply with the President's direction that Sessions publicly announce that,
notwithstanding his recusal, he was going to confine the Special Counsel's investigation to future
election interference.

Then why didn’t Mueller prosecute,

 

[newfie]

Women probably know more about what they're getting into when they get involved with rich/wealthy/powerful men than we give them credit for. It's what they get in return that's most important to them. Think Melania's parents are now US citizens as well. Might not have happened if Melania hadn't been OK with Donald putting his pecker in whatever he pleased.

not to mention she's the first lady by putting up with his sheannigans

 

[MrFedEx]

Then why didn’t Mueller prosecute,

The Mueller Report was written based on the premise that a sitting president couldn't be indicted.... that's why.

Impeach the MF.

 

[moreluck]

I'm glad he didn't play "grade school playground" with the kids! He has better things to do.

 

[vantexan]

The Mueller Report was written based on the premise that a sitting president couldn't be indicted.... that's why.

Impeach the MF.

For what exactly?

 

[MAKAVELI]

For what exactly?

Collusion and Obstruction. Ttku....

 

[vantexan]

Collusion and Obstruction. Ttku....

No collusion, no obstruction, try to stay down.

 

[MrFedEx]

For what exactly?

Obstruction. It will be over when we know the truth. So far, we have the Bill Barr/Trump version, which doesn't appear to be entirely factual. Earlier, you stated Mueller should testify, so have you reversed on that?

If Mueller says that Barr failed to do his job, what comes next? If Congress then finds him guilty of obstruction and impeaches, shouldn't the Senate do their job and remove Trump from office?

It isn't over..at all.

 

[MrFedEx]

No collusion, no obstruction, try to stay down.

No collusion, but just barely. Obstruction isn't off the table, even though you'd like it to be.

Jesus, look at the transcript. Trump did everything possible to obstruct, which proves intent. If I put out a contract to murder you, and it's found out before you get killed, I still go to prison for conspiracy to commit murder. Fact.

It is also fact that Trump intended to obstruct, and therefore meets the bar (Barr) for obstruction charges. That his underlings prevented Mueller getting fired etc. doesn't get Trump off the legal hook.

Barr's interpretation is highly suspect and probably not legitimate. Let Mueller testify, and release the un-redacted Mueller Report to Congress. Then everyone can see if Barr is a lackey or not.

Trump is neither exonerated nor innocent.

 

[BrownArmy]

No collusion, but just barely. Obstruction isn't off the table, even though you'd like it to be.

Jesus, look at the transcript. Trump did everything possible to obstruct, which proves intent. If I put out a contract to murder you, and it's found out before you get killed, I still go to prison for conspiracy to commit murder. Fact.

It is also fact that Trump intended to obstruct, and therefore meets the bar (Barr) for obstruction charges. That his underlings prevented Mueller getting fired etc. doesn't get Trump off the legal hook.

Barr's interpretation is highly suspect and probably not legitimate. Let Mueller testify, and release the un-redacted Mueller Report to Congress. Then everyone can see if Barr is a lackey or not.

Trump is neither exonerated nor innocent.

Don’t bother.

Either they haven’t read the report themselves, or they have and they don’t care.

It’s not worth it at this point.

 

[floridays]

Obstruction. It will be over when we know the truth. So far, we have the Bill Barr/Trump version, which doesn't appear to be entirely factual. Earlier, you stated Mueller should testify, so have you reversed on that?

If Mueller says that Barr failed to do his job, what comes next? If Congress then finds him guilty of obstruction and impeaches, shouldn't the Senate do their job and remove Trump from office?

It isn't over..at all.

You Sir are unhinged, there are no hinges to hang your door on.
You have the "report," no direct claim, nothing to prosecute, period.
Mueller, signed his name to the report, in a true legal setting he would be disbarred after offering such a report, period. A prosecutors job is to prosecute crimes, period.

He found no such crime, period.

His report should have been limited to facts that he could bring to the court, period. Final fact is decided in a courtroom, the prosecutor only brings his "facts" he will try and prove, beyond a reasonable doubt. He offered none, I will say it again, none, that he thought could bring a successful prosecution, period.

The clown Mueller did however sign his name to a document, that no US Attorney would or could offer, without sanction from the Court. Bill Barr is actually the Court Muller sent the report to that he signed off on, Bill Barr was his boss, period.
Let you silly games continue, I don't think you will be happy with the outcome.
I thought you said you were smart? Politics will have it's day, a real Court quite possibly could have a different say.
I think you should be glad William Barr has responded as he did.

 

[JL 0513]

It's pretty amazing seeing Team Trump try and spin the Mueller Report into a "witch hunt", now featuring spies, at least according to AG Barr. After all of the nonsense and criminality discovered in the Mueller probe, now it's poor Donald, the VICTIM once again.

This is pure Republican strategy, apparently aided and abetted by a complicit Attorney General who won't show the unredacted report to the House Intelligence Commitee, and is probably quite busy making sure any reference to Trump in the report that looks bad is never seen.

Today, in front of the Senate Intelligence Committee, Barr performed like a trained pony, and exceeded the wildest GOP expectations by saying there was "spying" on the Trump campaign. Hmmm. Why would ANYONE want to investigate someone like Donald J. Trump, or Paul Manafort, or Michael Cohen, or any of the other members of the band of thugs surrounding the Head Thug?

It makes my head spin to watch Trump dismantle our democracy. If he loses in 2020, my guess is Cohen was right when he said Trump won't cede power... because somehow it must have been rigged, UNFAIR, or otherwise against Trump.

Barr needs to be investigated for being in Trump's pocket. After all, didn't he write essentially an application for the job by saying a sitting president was immune from prosecution?

All of this certainly isn't making America great again.

Would you like to retract your opening post as it completely false?

 

[vantexan]

Obstruction. It will be over when we know the truth. So far, we have the Bill Barr/Trump version, which doesn't appear to be entirely factual. Earlier, you stated Mueller should testify, so have you reversed on that?

If Mueller says that Barr failed to do his job, what comes next? If Congress then finds him guilty of obstruction and impeaches, shouldn't the Senate do their job and remove Trump from office?

It isn't over..at all.

Mueller can do what he likes. But he's already told Barr he didn't disagree with how Barr handled things except for the media coverage of it. And he and his team helped Barr with the redactions. And for crying out loud, Trump wanting to fire someone isn't the same as actually doing it. But go ahead with the impeachment. Let's see if it affects your chances in 2020.