California is a sorry excuse for a state

[MAKAVELI]

The better question to ask is how can you justify paying that extra $5000.

Cost of owning a business.

 

[59 Dano]

[QUOTE="59 Dano, post: 3257396, member: 23516"
That out of the way, what you short bussers don't take into account is that employers will simply raise their standards. If I pay new hires $20,000/year and it is mandated that I pay them $25,000/year, I'll stop hiring people whose labor is worth $20k and start hiring people whose labor is worth $25k. You can dictate how much must be paid but you can't dictate who'll get hired.

Lost your argument when you used an insult instead of a valid argument.
Thanks for playing.[/QUOTE]

It was there. You quoted it. Keep ignoring it, I understand.

I see that you went back and edited my argument out of your original quote. I'm sure that was an accident

 

[floridays]

So much for your analytics.

What makes a 20k worker a 25k worker? Run your analytics by me.

 

[59 Dano]

Cost of owning a business.

If that's the case, I'd get rid of those who aren't worth the extra $5000. It would be a minor inconvenience for me. Too bad for those who lose their jobs because of it.

 

[59 Dano]

What makes a 20k worker a 25k worker? Run your analytics by me.

In short, some employees are worth more than others. If you want to get technical, you plug your variables into a regression analysis and go from there.

 

[MAKAVELI]

If that's the case, I'd get rid of those who aren't worth the extra $5000. It would be a minor inconvenience for me. Too bad for those who lose their jobs because of it.

Yes because that's exactly what Fedex has done, right?

 

[floridays]

In short, some employees are worth more than others. If you want to get technical, you plug your variables into a regression analysis and go from there.

I understand, Makaveli just wants to pick an arbitrary number. Other than legalized theft from business owners, I want him to tell me what magically makes a 20k worker worth 25k.

 

[MAKAVELI]

I understand, Makaveli just wants to pick an arbitrary number. Other than legalized theft from business owners, I want him to tell me what magically makes a 20k worker worth 25k.

I want you to tell me what makes them not worth $25k.

 

[floridays]

I want you to tell me what makes them not worth $25k.

Why not just ask me why they aren't worth 40k, or 60 or 80k. I'll let you answer that question, and you have answered your own 25k question.

 

[slowdriver]

"it is not the employer who pays the wages. Employers only handle the money. It is the customer who pays the wages." -Henry Ford

 

[MAKAVELI]

Why not just ask me why they aren't worth 40k, or 60 or 80k. I'll let you answer that question, and you have answered your own 25k question.

And you might as well tell me they are only worth $10k. See how that works?

 

[burrheadd]

Never seen a job posting looking for a lazy mf.

Seen a few apply for said jobs

 

[slowdriver]

who's worth more a chinese factory worker, or a fast food worker in the US?

 

[MAKAVELI]

who's worth more a chinese factory worker, or a fast food worker in the US?

There sure is a lot of hate for fast food workers, especially when you consider this country's addiction to fast food.

 

[MAKAVELI]

Seen a few apply for said jobs

I've seen more than a few shady business owners try to exploit there workers.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

There sure is a lot of hate for fast food workers, especially when you consider this country's addiction to fast food.

People are selfish and narcissistic.
They want to pay $1 for a burger, and they don't care if other Americans have to live in poverty so they can get it. It's disgusting.

 

[slowdriver]

There sure is a lot of hate for fast food workers, especially when you consider this country's addiction to fast food.

Just pointing out danos "worth" argument as BS, no hate..

 

[vantexan]

If you have to compare the the United states to a third world country to support your viewpoint against a living wage, you've already lost the argument. Some people want better for their country and its citizens.

You think they don't want better? The problem with too many people is they think they're owed a great living. They see a man with a big house, beautiful wife, nice vehicles, lots of expensive toys and are envious. Think it's unfair that they don't have the same. Earn it, then enjoy it. I think a company is only obligated to be fair, not provide you with a $100k+ lifestyle. If you want better, move up within the organization. Start your own business. Develop skills. If you're content with less ok. If you aren't content do something about it that doesn't involve rioting in the streets. Earn it.

 

[rickyb]

minimum wage is economic cancer

the democrats in CA won't stop until everyone is on the streets so the welfare state can really take hold

if there was no minimum wage, you can bet workers would be making less than minimum wage.

 

[DriveInDriveOut]

I think a company is only obligated to be fair, not provide you with a $100k+ lifestyle.

You always try to move the goalposts because you don't have anything relevant to say.

No one is talking about 100K a year lifestyle. And the companies aren't being fair, that's the entire point.