center manager go's off on driver in PCM

[Marne Vet]

Couple years back, center manager opened up the PCM by telling us to stretch. I stood there with my arms crossed and he started this tirade about how know one listens to him and heads were gonna roll








MADE MY DAY

Had a center manager go off on a rant one day about how our Center was bringing back too many Send Agains. Mind you, we work in the ghetto. He says "I don't care if you have to DR it on the roof! get it done!" One of our drivers says "Will UPS be supplying us with ladders?" He lost it. haha Greatest moment ever. The center manager has been fired a few years now. What a tool.

 

[DSM515]

Lots of the fellow drivers here are still shocked it went too this level first and foremost. This is a perfect example how there is two sets of standards at UPS. If a steward went off on a center manager like that he would be walked out. I believe that would be justified, but THEY can get away with it? It's past the point of why this happened, it's the question now what will happen?

 

[Catatonic]

Lots of the fellow drivers here are still shocked it went too this level first and foremost. This is a perfect example how there is two sets of standards at UPS. If a steward went off on a center manager like that he would be walked out. I believe that would be justified, but THEY can get away with it? It's past the point of why this happened, it's the question now what will happen?

I would expect the Teamsters to at least send him a Warning Letter!

 

[DSM515]

I would expect the Teamsters to at least send him a Warning Letter!

Certified mail? or Next day air code 42?

 

[toonertoo]

Well obviously I dont know how to quote yet. Dragon, I deleted your post by "accident" and rewrote it the best I could. I believe the diver thought he could do it just this one time, and it happened. Stupid, yes, accident yes. If it had been deliberate, it would not be an accident.
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[chuchu]

If the driver pursued it the center manager would be out of that ctr.

Unless the DM was the same caliber.

 

[chuchu]

What I meant was that the center manager made fool of himself and you should feel embarrassed for him.
Think about it.

Unless he's YOUR center manager

But, I've never walked in his shoes. I cant judge him but a person wants to.

 

[Catatonic]

Unless he's YOUR center manager.

But, I've never walked in his shoes. I cant judge him but you want to.

I know what behavior is expected of a professional UPS management person.
The behavior described in this thread is not professional.

Furthermore, I don't believe for one second that you can't judge him.
I've read way too many of your posts.
You could judge an ant walking across the sidewalk.

 

[chuchu]

There's two ways of handling those kind of issues.

If the center manager doesn't normally portray. that kind of degrading attitude the members looks of unbelief and silence (lack of a rebuke) may bring him to reflect on what he did later when the drivers were gone and precipitate a public apology in the next PCM and deepen his respect level with the drivers.

If he is normally an unprofessional person....well, let nature take it's course on paper.

 

[chuchu]

I know what behavior is expected of a professional UPS management person.
The behavior described in this thread is not professional.

Furthermore, I don't believe for one second that you can't judge him.
I've read way too many of your posts.
You could judge an ant walking across the sidewalk.

Hoax, we're all human and make mistakes.

If it's a chronic problem, well, that should reap a quick response.

If it's because he (the center manager) had his job threatened by the DM in the morning conference call (over the accident) and maybe other issues he cant control are mounting up and he doesn't normally act that way, well maybe he needs a little space at the moment.

You have to look at the whole picture if you want lasting changes.

If the employees want some grace on their mistakes, they have to give some too when it's needed.

 

[jumpman23]

The driver should have told the center manager we can take this outside and settle this like real men not like little girls. Winner keeps his job loser quits lol. Punk that son of a bitch down. Thats bs i woulda put a scare in him like he aint never been scared in his life. He woulda seen what a crazy person really looks like lol.

 

[chuchu]

I know that I come across hard core a lot but that (normally) has to do with dealing with management teams that were extremely dishonest and abusive.

We don't have that kind of element in our center now.

I've seen and heard drivers say things to supervision that they should have been taken out of service for but instead the supervisor overlooked it and tried to get to the root of their frustration and make the coversation end up productive. You have to repect people like that.

We have a new center manager who isn't well versed in the contract and pretty green at his job so he makes many contractural mistakes but his heart is right toward the workers so i dont file on his mistakes at the drop of a hat. I explain the issues in a respectful way and he normally tries to fix the issues. I respect that.

If he was a jerk and prided himself in being one I would fill his office full of paperwork to get his attention.

You reap what you plant.

 

[DSM515]

He's not a bad guy for the most part, except he's very vindictive, plays favorites and has our union steward in his back pocket. I told said driver he has 5 working days too file if he isn't man enough too apologize in public. So it's in his court now.

 

[beavis]

He's not a bad guy for the most part, except he's very vindictive, plays favorites and has our union steward in his back pocket. I told said driver he has 5 working days too file if he isn't man enough too apologize in public. So it's in his court now.

I wouldn't put it on the driver to file. Since there were 30 witnesses I would have the steward or somebody else from the group write a class action grievance getting signatures and statements from everybody. Show some solidarity.

 

[over9five]

I wouldn't put it on the driver to file. Since there were 30 witnesses I would have the steward or somebody else from the group write a class action grievance getting signatures and statements from everybody. Show some solidarity.

It happened in Package in front of package car drivers.
Nothing will happen.

 

[OPTION3]

He's not a bad guy for the most part, except he's very vindictive, plays favorites

-HUNH? Sounds like the definition of to me

 

[cachsux]

It happened in Package in front of package car drivers.
Nothing will happen.

........besides the 30 little puddles on the floor.

 

[chuchu]

He's not a bad guy for the most part, except he's very vindictive, plays favorites and has our union steward in his back pocket. I told said driver he has 5 working days too file if he isn't man enough too apologize in public. So it's in his court now.[/quot

Vote yourselves in a steward (and alternate steward) that's honest.

There's no place for a puppet union steward in the UPS system.

Never put up with that corruption.

 

[chuchu]

I wouldn't put it on the driver to file. Since there were 30 witnesses I would have the steward or somebody else from the group write a class action grievance getting signatures and statements from everybody. Show some solidarity.

You have to talk wih the center manager first and sinice he did it in public he should apologize to the driver in the same public setting.

If he won't, file. But you have to give him a chance to fix it first.

 

[happybob]

If the driver pursued it the center manager would be out of that ctr.

Moved to another center with a promotion.