Christianity

[Integrity]

Are you referring to the books/curriculum being questioned or to the National School Board Association requesting the DOJ go after these parents?

I am specifically referring to the parents showing up at the school board meeting you mentioned to protest CRT being taught in schools?

What was their endgame?

What did they want to have happen from this protest?

 

[vantexan]

Heterosexuality is taught to kids and reinforced by society in many different ways. Starting with Adam and Eve which I was taught at a very young age, in a children’s Bible book with lots of pictures. Adam and Eve were depicted by mostly nude cartoons with leaves covering their genitals and eve’s breasts. No Christian looked at that book and thought oh no it’s children being sexualized! They created and sold the books.
No one reasonable is upset at Ken and Barbie getting married. No those toys are beloved and popular. No one is wanting to toss out Disney legacy films that portray heterosexuality; those are beloved and popular.

Give me a break, teaching kids about gayness and accepting gay people is not “sexualizing” children in a damaging way like molestation or showing them pornography.

Keep it to after puberty, preferably late in high school. Recognizing that people engage in alternative lifestyles isn't the same as convincing little Johnny that he might really prefer being little Susie. Putting books in school libraries that describe graphic sex acts isn't acceptable whether it's heterosexual or homosexual. Keep the sex out of schools for crying out loud. I've never known a gay person whose whole identity wasn't wrapped up in their sexuality. Leave it at home when dealing with kids in school.

 

[Integrity]

So religious material should be the responsibility of parents but parents shouldn't protest books in libraries that describe sex acts in vivid detail or curriculum that says whites are inherently racists and minorities are inherently victims of whites?

I really think it is probably better for the parents to disseminate and oversee this type of material to their children. Both types of material you mention.

As I have said, I don’t think protesting is a real effective means for handling this type of situation.

No one can actually force a child to read something that a parent instructs a child not to read can they?

 

[vantexan]

I am specifically referring to the parents showing up at school board meeting to protest CRT being taught in schools?

What was their endgame?

What did they want to have happen from this protest?

Pretty self evident. Remove books from libraries that describe sexual activity in graphic detail. Stop teaching CRT that not only gets historical fact wrong but pushes the idea that whites were, are, and always will be racist. Remember also that besides having their kids in school the parents are paying taxes to pay for those schools. That gives them the right to voice opposition to material being taught their children that's well beyond the realm of a basic education.

 

[Integrity]

Pretty self evident. Remove books from libraries that describe sexual activity in graphic detail. Stop teaching CRT that not only gets historical fact wrong but pushes the idea that whites were, are, and always will be racist. Remember also that besides having their kids in school the parents are paying taxes to pay for those schools. That gives them the right to voice opposition to material being taught their children that's well beyond the realm of a basic education.

Ok.

So after this what was the school board’s decision?

 

[vantexan]

I really think it is probably better for the parents to disseminate and oversee this type of material to their children.

As I have said, I don’t think protesting is a real effective means for handling this type of situation.

No one can actually force a child to read something that a parent instructs a child not to read can they?

Kids don't have their parents looking over their shoulders in libraries. Been well documented all over the country that extremely sexual material has been found in school libraries. The material shouldn't be there and please don't tell me about your Christian beliefs if you defend it being there.

 

[Fred's Myth]

Thank you Tucker, for asking the pointed question (that didn't get answered)!

 

[Integrity]

Keep it to after puberty, preferably late in high school. Recognizing that people engage in alternative lifestyles isn't the same as convincing little Johnny that he might really prefer being little Susie. Putting books in school libraries that describe graphic sex acts isn't acceptable whether it's heterosexual or homosexual. Keep the sex out of schools for crying out loud. I've never known a gay person whose whole identity wasn't wrapped up in their sexuality. Leave it at home when dealing with kids in school.

Not following this.

 

[vantexan]

Ok.

So after this what was the school board’s decision?

Multiple school boards in multiple counties across the country. I don't know. I do know that it was leaked that the DOJ was sent a letter by the organization representing these school boards wanting Merrick Garland to classify these parents as domestic terrorists and to go after them. He got called before Congress on it and he hemmed and hawwed about it without giving much in the way of direct answers. But it was politically damaging and ground central to all of this was Loudon County, Virginia and was a major catalyst to Republican Glenn Youngkin winning the governorship in a blue state.

 

[Integrity]

Kids don't have their parents looking over their shoulders in libraries.

Ok.

Been well documented all over the country that extremely sexual material has been found in school libraries.

Ok.

Do you know who specifically decides books for school library shelves?

The material shouldn't be there and please don't tell me about your Christian beliefs if you defend it being there.

I am not defending any material for school library shelves or not.

What I will say is, if what you say is true then a concerned parent should IMO instruct their child not to read any book from a school library until the parent has fully reviewed and approved the book for the child to read.

 

[Integrity]

Multiple school boards in multiple counties across the country. I don't know. I do know that it was leaked that the DOJ was sent a letter by the organization representing these school boards wanting Merrick Garland to classify these parents as domestic terrorists and to go after them. He got called before Congress on it and he hemmed and hawwed about it without giving much in the way of direct answers. But it was politically damaging and ground central to all of this was Loudon County, Virginia and was a major catalyst to Republican Glenn Youngkin winning the governorship in a blue state.

I just want to know about the one you mentioned.

What did the school board decide?

 

[vantexan]

Ok.

Ok.

Do you know who specifically decides books for school library shelves?

I am not defending any material for school library shelves or not.

What I will say is, if what you say is true then a concerned parent should IMO instruct their child not to read any book from a school library until the parent has fully reviewed and approved the book for the child to read.

So in your view it's acceptable for those books to be there but the parents responsibility to keep their children from reading them?

I imagine in a library it's the librarians who choose. They may however be choosing from a predetermined list. As for CRT it's usually the school board working with educators who decide what is taught locally. But again probably getting their choice of curriculum from some national entity.

 

[vantexan]

I just want to know about the one you mentioned.

What did the school board decide?

Loudon County, Virginia... Look it up.

 

[Integrity]

So in your view it's acceptable for those books to be there but the parents responsibility to keep their children from reading them?

Regardless of whether they are acceptable or not, if they are there, and parents are concerned about them, then absolutely parents are responsible and IMO they should instruct their children do not read anything before given parental approval.

I imagine in a library it's the librarians who choose. They may however be choosing from a predetermined list. As for CRT it's usually the school board working with educators who decide what is taught locally. But again probably getting their choice of curriculum from some national entity.

So you don’t actually know who specifically decides.

Ok.

 

[Integrity]

Loudon County, Virginia... Look it up.

No thank you. You brought it up.

All good.

 

[bottomups]

So if parents find out about what is being taught and deem that inappropriate for their child is that an appropriate reaction or do parents not have a say in their child's education?

So send the kids to a religious school where they learn you can become pregnant without having sex.

 

[vantexan]

Regardless of whether they are acceptable or not, if they are there, and parents are concerned about them, then absolutely parents are responsible and IMO they should instruct their children do not read anything before given parental approval.

So you don’t actually know who specifically decides.

Ok.

So you're looking for a way to discount my views in order to justify having sexually explicit material in school libraries or teaching that whites are as a race inherently racist.

OK

 

[vantexan]

So send the kids to a religious school where they learn you can become pregnant without having sex.

That would explain your belly.

 

[bottomups]

God

God killed lots of innocent people. That's evil.

 

[vantexan]

No thank you. You brought it up.

All good.

Uh-huh. I brought it up to another person and you inserted yourself because you could sense there was a disturbance in the liberal force that must be defended.