Civil War II: How Do You Want It To End?

qdg2

Well-Known Member
they are stories to show how the world works and where its headed
Stories? Really? Where nothing ever since has happened? At least in recordable history. If it happened then(fantastical super-natural occurrences) it would be happening now. A simple earthquake and volcano would seem like "God" destroying man....but to a relative scientific simpleton......lot of that.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
Fair enough. Lot's of people don't care about the Bible. Billions in fact. Better?
On that..Day (Judgement).. Many (Billions) will say to me.....And then will I declare to them, ‘I never knew you; depart from me, you workers of lawlessness.’ - Mathew 7

Better?
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo
Ok. How? Exactly now....more real....
Ok you idiot, here:
The matrix is a Hollywood version of the simulation hypothesis (it’s a scientific theory have you heard of it?)
The Bible has a plethora of historical data (not sure where you want me to start) for instance the flood: multiple cultures have this same story. The Derinkuyu tunnels are an example of physical evidence left over for a catastrophe of that scale.

Do you pride yourself on being a contrarian? Or do you enjoy being a simpleton?
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo
Stories? Really? Where nothing ever since has happened? At least in recordable history. If it happened then(fantastical super-natural occurrences) it would be happening now. A simple earthquake and volcano would seem like "God" destroying man....but to a relative scientific simpleton......lot of that.
Stories are history. History is stories. What do you think about the younger dryas? Or is that fantastical supernatural occurrence? What kind of physical evidence do you need to accept reality?
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
I agree with some of this because the wachowskis are trans so that is clearly a factor in some of their writing but the story and idea can’t be bound to a gender metaphor.

From the linked BBC article:

"The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

Fans have speculated about potential meanings behind the iconic films and Lilly confirmed the theory to Netflix.
"I'm glad that it has gotten out," she said."

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"The character Switch - who *spoiler alert* didn't make it past the first film - shows "where our headspaces were", Lilly says in a Netflix video.

"The Matrix stuff was all about the desire for transformation but it was all coming from a closeted point of view."
 

qdg2

Well-Known Member
Ok you idiot, here:
The matrix is a Hollywood version of the simulation hypothesis (it’s a scientific theory have you heard of it?)
The Bible has a plethora of historical data (not sure where you want me to start) for instance the flood: multiple cultures have this same story. The Derinkuyu tunnels are an example of physical evidence left over for a catastrophe of that scale.

Do you pride yourself on being a contrarian? Or do you enjoy being a simpleton?
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Stories are history. History is stories. What do you think about the younger dryas? Or is that fantastical supernatural occurrence? What kind of physical evidence do you need to accept reality?
Where do you want me to start? I can't insult you(as you've done to me) as I will be banned...

Contrarian? Billions....billions IGNORE the Bible.

Really? Hollywood version(Matrix)! A religious ricky!

Me an Idiot? Don't you think if your "data" and plethora of historical "data"ties anything together...... I am a simple guy......no-one else has been able to prove God exists.....lead the way. The world is waiting.

History is fact. Maybe that's where you kind of can't find your behind with both hands and help......

I realize you have for this to be real. It has to be true or you are a rudderless lost soul.

Millions have been slaughtered in the name of religion.........kinda loses me there and and of course the super-natural stuff.......oh and sitting in a wooden pew smelling a musty old hymnal. Always enjoyed the stale crackers and grape juice....my blessed respite from the droning on. Sure glad when there was a noon kickoff for the football game on Sunday.....we got to leave early.
BTW, there weren't any tunnels around our house....
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo
From the linked BBC article:

"The Matrix films are about being transgender, the trilogy's co-director says.

"That was the original intention but the world wasn't quite ready," says Lilly Wachowski, who came out as trans along with her sister Lana after the films came out.

Fans have speculated about potential meanings behind the iconic films and Lilly confirmed the theory to Netflix.
"I'm glad that it has gotten out," she said."

-----

"The character Switch - who *spoiler alert* didn't make it past the first film - shows "where our headspaces were", Lilly says in a Netflix video.

"The Matrix stuff was all about the desire for transformation but it was all coming from a closeted point of view."
Anyone can say anything about everything. The facts are the story of the matrix is not new. Its style and art were. Simulacra and simulation by Jean Baudrillard and Plato’s Cave were the largest influence to this story.
 

PreTrippin’

Stinkin Ginzo
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Where do you want me to start? I can't insult you(as you've done to me) as I will be banned...

Contrarian? Billions....billions IGNORE the Bible.

Really? Hollywood version(Matrix)! A religious ricky!

Me an Idiot? Don't you think if your "data" and plethora of historical "data"ties anything together...... I am a simple guy......no-one else has been able to prove God exists.....lead the way. The world is waiting.

History is fact. Maybe that's where you kind of can't find your behind with both hands and help......

I realize you have for this to be real. It has to be true or you are a rudderless lost soul.

Millions have been slaughtered in the name of religion.........kinda loses me there and and of course the super-natural stuff.......oh and sitting in a wooden pew smelling a musty old hymnal. Always enjoyed the stale crackers and grape juice....my blessed respite from the droning on. Sure glad when there was a noon kickoff for the football game on Sunday.....we got to leave early.
BTW, there weren't any tunnels around our house....
sorry this seems like a lot of rambling and noise. Why can’t you insult me? What point are you trying to argue?
 

qdg2

Well-Known Member
sorry this seems like a lot of rambling and noise. Why can’t you insult me? What point are you trying to argue?
Well, I could see that....you are in a impossible situation. You have a deeply, impossible situation you cannot extricate yourself from, your entire being depends on proving the Bible is true, along with all the other stuff. You can't, so you insult me(calling me an idiot and simpleton or a contrarian). This deflection and name calling is a tried and true method of promoting an unprovable argument based on emotion. It's been going on like this for 2,000 years. MOF, millions have been killed in the name of religion...but I digress. All the while proving nothing.

I'm not allowed to speak freely as you have done to me. I'm censored. You do realize certain people have more or less privileges here on BC.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Anyone can say anything about everything. The facts are the story of the matrix is not new. Its style and art were. Simulacra and simulation by Jean Baudrillard and Plato’s Cave were the largest influence to this story.
yea theres philosophy books explaining the matrix. its the best kind of art with lots of meaning.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
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Where do you want me to start? I can't insult you(as you've done to me) as I will be banned...

Contrarian? Billions....billions IGNORE the Bible.

Really? Hollywood version(Matrix)! A religious ricky!

Me an Idiot? Don't you think if your "data" and plethora of historical "data"ties anything together...... I am a simple guy......no-one else has been able to prove God exists.....lead the way. The world is waiting.

History is fact. Maybe that's where you kind of can't find your behind with both hands and help......

I realize you have for this to be real. It has to be true or you are a rudderless lost soul.

Millions have been slaughtered in the name of religion.........kinda loses me there and and of course the super-natural stuff.......oh and sitting in a wooden pew smelling a musty old hymnal. Always enjoyed the stale crackers and grape juice....my blessed respite from the droning on. Sure glad when there was a noon kickoff for the football game on Sunday.....we got to leave early.
BTW, there weren't any tunnels around our house....
some smart people are christians and literally believe in god

i dont literally believe in god, i believe in the symbolism of god
 

qdg2

Well-Known Member
some smart people are christians and literally believe in god

i dont literally believe in god, i believe in the symbolism of god
In the end ricky......it literally means NOTHING to believe in God or the symbolism. Believing in the tooth fairy will get you to the same place.
 

rickyb

Well-Known Member
Right. Good and bad.
its been good for me

i went from a nihilistic passive consumer to actually doing something by donating, protesting, bumper stickers, fashion, videos, voting.

ive also seen religion being practiced in a bad way at the local church. im suprised people arent smart enough to figure it out, i guess its a lack of a certain kind of intelligence. even my friend who is above average for intelligence - his parents go :S
 
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