Civil War II: How Do You Want It To End?

[qdg2]

its been good for me

i went from a nihilistic passive consumer to actually doing something by donating, protesting, bumper stickers, fashion, videos, voting.

ive also seen religion being practiced in a bad way at the local church. im suprised people arent smart enough to figure it out, i guess its a lack of a certain kind of intelligence. even my friend who is above average for intelligence - his parents go :S

From a casual observer based on your posts....You are a communist/socialist/Democrat liberal or some version. Following principles responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.

I'm surprised people aren't smart enough to figure it out. I guess it's a lack of a certain kind of intelligence. Eh?

 

[rickyb]

From a casual observer based on your posts....You are a communist/socialist/Democrat liberal or some version. Following principles responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths.

I'm surprised people aren't smart enough to figure it out. I guess it's a lack of a certain kind of intelligence. Eh?

jesus wasnt a capitalist.

richard wolff tallys capitalist deaths. i dont compare deaths of either system. the socialism youre talking about was probably highly undemocratic.

i noticed you like to use words "socialism" or "communism". so i will define what i am in favor of and what i am against: i am ok with one person business and no employees. i am ok with 2 co-owners coming to decisions and no employees. i am ok with 3 co-owners and no employees. and so on. but as soon as there are employees i am against it. i consider a business of 2 or more equal co-owners to be socialist not capitalist. capitalism is when you have employees who are following bosses orders and who are paid an hourly wage.

 

[Commercial Inside Release]

@rickyb you think you are describing owner\co-ops, but you are really describing partnerships. In Canada, maybe partnerships workout fine... Here in America, partnerships have been demonized in general business classes since about WW2. And, that demonization has been reinforced by endless tales of one parter running off with the customers, emptying the bank accounts, making shady deals, or constantly fighting with the other partner.

Here we favor:
Sole proprietorships
S-Corporations
Limited Liability Corps
Corporations
Holding Companies

 

[rickyb]

@rickyb you think you are describing owner\co-ops, but you are really describing partnerships. In Canada, maybe partnerships workout fine... Here in America, partnerships have been demonized in general business classes since about WW2. And, that demonization has been reinforced by endless tales of one parter running off with the customers, emptying the bank accounts, making shady deals, or constantly fighting with the other partner.

Here we favor:
Sole proprietorships
S-Corporations
Limited Liability Corps
Corporations
Holding Companies

coops are more likely to succeed than capitalist biz probably because the risk is spread and employees are incentivized to see the business succeed.

even reagan at one point mentioned his support of worker coops.

theres some other corporate stuff that you didnt mention i forget what htey are called. one might be called "B corporation".

maybe these guys describe them: The Democracy Collaborative

 

[catstalking]

Abolish the FBI, CIA, ATF, NSA, DHS, IRS, EPA, Federal Reserve, Department of Energy, and Department of Health, leave NATO, leave the United Nations, end federal income tax, end the Social Security program, end the welfare state, repeal all gun control bills put in place after 1791, end the political party system, and place strict term and age limits on congress and the presidency and well as require regular cognitive tests for them and reduce the pay and cut all additional benefits from the job.

cool it with the anti-semitism

 

[newolddude]

cool it with the anti-semitism

They're Holocaust denying in another thread: so that seems to be the new normal here.

 

[catstalking]

They're Holocaust denying in another thread: so that seems to be the new normal here.

good

 

[vantexan]

jesus wasnt a capitalist.

richard wolff tallys capitalist deaths. i dont compare deaths of either system. the socialism youre talking about was probably highly undemocratic.

i noticed you like to use words "socialism" or "communism". so i will define what i am in favor of and what i am against: i am ok with one person business and no employees. i am ok with 2 co-owners coming to decisions and no employees. i am ok with 3 co-owners and no employees. and so on. but as soon as there are employees i am against it. i consider a business of 2 or more equal co-owners to be socialist not capitalist. capitalism is when you have employees who are following bosses orders and who are paid an hourly wage.

So by your definition those who don't have the money to start their own business should just go off somewhere and die rather than work for someone else as an employee. By your definition large businesses can have tens of thousands of co-owner but not have employees. Who decides which owners clean the toilets while other owners keep the books?

 

[Thebrownblob]

So by your definition those who don't have the money to start their own business should just go off somewhere and die rather than work for someone else as an employee. By your definition large businesses can have tens of thousands of co-owner but not have employees. Who decides which owners clean the toilets while other owners keep the books?

Everyone should take their business and labor advice from @rickyb. Come on he watches fantasy movies, he can’t be wrong. And he’s very successful himself.

 

[Yolo]

How it ends!

 

[Yolo]

Liburals be crying

 

[rickyb]

Everyone should take their business and labor advice from @rickyb. Come on he watches fantasy movies, he can’t be wrong. And he’s very successful himself.

most people take their labor advice from the capitalists.

the capitalists of course take all the money for themselves since they have most of hte power

 

[rickyb]

So by your definition those who don't have the money to start their own business should just go off somewhere and die rather than work for someone else as an employee. By your definition large businesses can have tens of thousands of co-owner but not have employees. Who decides which owners clean the toilets while other owners keep the books?

we decide democratically. democracy is a threat to any power system.

The Democracy Collaborative
and democracy at work go into more detail

 

[Thebrownblob]

most people take their labor advice from the capitalists.

the capitalists of course take all the money for themselves since they have most of hte power

I mean, even your analysis is ridiculous. If they took ALL the money, they couldn’t even be capitalists because no one could buy anything.

 

[rickyb]

I mean, even your analysis is ridiculous. If they took ALL the money, they couldn’t even be capitalists because no one could buy anything.

yea pardon me - most of hte money.

 

[bottomups]

You do realize "The Matrix" is a movie....right? A work of fiction.

So is the Bible but that doesn't deter you from spewing it's bull.

 

[BrownFlush]

some smart people are christians and literally believe in god

i dont literally believe in god, i believe in the symbolism of god

I don't believe in literal morality.
I believe in what literal morality symbolizes.
I don't believe in literal capitalism. Just what it represents.
I don't believe in literal sex....wait.

 

[Thebrownblob]

So is the Bible but that doesn't deter you from spewing it's bull.

I mean, do you even stop and think about what you’re saying? @qdg2 dislikes, Christianity just as much as you, you guys are brothers in that regard.

 

[BrownFlush]

Believing in the tooth fairy will get you to the same place.

HELL, yes.

 

[TheDudeAbides92]

For those of you demanding a Second American Civil War: what do you want in the end?

Where do you want the borders?
What do you want changed?
What is your ideal America after you win?

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For those of you demanding a Second American Civil War: what do you want in the end?

Where do you want the borders?
What do you want changed?
What is your ideal America after you win?

Sarah Palin Warns of Civil War After Trump Arrest: ‘We Do Need to Rise Up’ (Video)

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Id give the commies Oregon California and Washington state. And throw in Hawaii since they completely destroyed that state anyway. That’s plenty for the leftists to move out there and have their own dystopia.…patriots keep the rest