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bacha29

Well-Known Member
As if lugging letters for Fat Freddy was going to make you independently wealthy. That wasn't going to happen regardless of the controlling political ideology. Even if the hardest of conservative ideologies was in complete control for your entire decades long term of employment you and the others would still be on here belly aching about the disparity between you guys and the socialist labor union represented UPS in terms of wages, wage progression healthcare and pension benefits.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
You'll still grab every single publicly funded service that will improve the quality of your life you can grab despite your own admission that you haven't paid in a dime of federal income tax in may years. That's NOT conservatism.
No, I won't. I'll use the benefits I'm entitled to like everyone else.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
A TRUE conservative doesn't believe in public welfare services because after all IT"S SOCIALISM! However, many of TODAY"S conservatives never acquired enough wealth over their lifetimes to be able to survive without the need for such services. In doing so they have failed their own ideology or perhaps the ideology failed them And BTW Roth taxes are front loaded.
We'll have socialism when we have a centralized government that controls all aspects of production. Until then we're a capitalist nation with some good social programs. Don't conflate political ideology with economic systems. One can be a liberal and still be a capitalist. Now go crawl back under your rock.
 

falcon back

Well-Known Member
Why would you NEED to apply for benefits if you had fulfilled your obligations to your ideolog?
Only a fool would spend 45 to 50 years contributing to government programs and not take advantage of them when eligible. I guess you must be a fool if you refuse to use your eligible benefits.

If a billionaire buys a new car and the car breaks down under warranty, should the billionaire fix the car out of his pocket or use the car warranty to get the car fixed? He has the means to fix it out of his pocket, why should he use the manufacturers warranty.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
Why would you NEED to apply for benefits if you had fulfilled your obligations to your ideolog?
Where did you ever get the idea that to be conservative is to be wealthy? To be conservative imo means to keep people like you from destroying the system for the rest of us with reckless spending. The richest people on the planet are liberals but most of them seem to realize the necessity of moderation.
 

burrheadd

KING Of GIFS
Where did you ever get the idea that to be conservative is to be wealthy? To be conservative imo means to keep people like you from destroying the system for the rest of us with reckless spending. The richest people on the planet are liberals but most of them seem to realize the necessity of moderation.
How’s the extended camping trip coming along?
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Only a fool would spend 45 to 50 years contributing to government programs and not take advantage of them when eligible. I guess you must be a fool if you refuse to use your eligible benefits.

If a billionaire buys a new car and the car breaks down under warranty, should the billionaire fix the car out of his pocket or use the car warranty to get the car fixed? He has the means to fix it out of his pocket, why should he use the manufacturers warranty.
But why would a so called "conservative" demonize the party responsible for the passage of social program legislation which that so called "conservative" will be heavily if not completely dependent on for their sustenance resulting from their failure to fulfill the most basic requirements of their ideology and that was to earn enough over the course of their lifetimes to make their need for such programs unnecessary? What do you think about that Old Falcon Fart ?
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
But why would a so called "conservative" demonize the party responsible for the passage of social program legislation which that so called "conservative" will be heavily if not completely dependent on for their sustenance resulting from their failure to fulfill the most basic requirements of their ideology and that was to earn enough over the course of their lifetimes to make their need for such programs unnecessary? What do you think about that Old Falcon Fart ?
Not demonizing Democrats from way back when. Just think that party has gotten crazier and crazier to the point they'd destroy the country if given the chance.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
Where did you ever get the idea that to be conservative is to be wealthy? To be conservative imo means to keep people like you from destroying the system for the rest of us with reckless spending. The richest people on the planet are liberals but most of them seem to realize the necessity of moderation.
And your party said exactly the same thing about SS, Medicare, early childhood education, unemployment compensation (and how much of that have you drawn), workman's comp and on and on and on. As of yesterday despite the fact that not a single GOP member of either the House or the Senate voted in favor of the stimulus package because it too was "reckless spending" not a single GOP governor has refused and returned the stimulus money they were appropriated. And now Manchin has shot down the BBB which if it had passed would allow people as young as 55 to buy into Medicare and despite the fact that his state already is by far a recipient state. Rest assured they would have been plenty of 55 year old uninsured Republicans who would have leaped at the chance to enroll early in Medicare and and an equal number of Republican grandparents raising their grandkids and in some cases their great grandkids who are now struggling to get by following the expiration of the child care credit that BBB would have reestablished.
Don't worry I expect Manchin to lave the Democrats but lacks the political testicles to become a registered Republican instead become an independent but caucus with the Republicans.
 

DriveInDriveOut

Inordinately Right
And your party said exactly the same thing about SS, Medicare, early childhood education, unemployment compensation (and how much of that have you drawn), workman's comp and on and on and on. As of yesterday despite the fact that not a single GOP member of either the House or the Senate voted in favor of the stimulus package because it too was "reckless spending" not a single GOP governor has refused and returned the stimulus money they were appropriated. And now Manchin has shot down the BBB which if it had passed would allow people as young as 55 to buy into Medicare and despite the fact that his state already is by far a recipient state. Rest assured they would have been plenty of 55 year old uninsured Republicans who would have leaped at the chance to enroll early in Medicare and and an equal number of Republican grandparents raising their grandkids and in some cases their great grandkids who are now struggling to get by following the expiration of the child care credit that BBB would have reestablished.
Don't worry I expect Manchin to lave the Democrats but lacks the political testicles to become a registered Republican instead become an independent but caucus with the Republicans.
He voted against the bill because it was irresponsible garbage. Cherry picking one thing in a giant wasteful bill is disingenuous.

It's a pathetic political tactic used by people who can't defend their opinions in a real way. Typical for you.

Now deflect little lady.
 

falcon back

Well-Known Member
But why would a so called "conservative" demonize the party responsible for the passage of social program legislation which that so called "conservative" will be heavily if not completely dependent on for their sustenance resulting from their failure to fulfill the most basic requirements of their ideology and that was to earn enough over the course of their lifetimes to make their need for such programs unnecessary? What do you think about that Old Falcon Fart ?
Getting back money I deposited is wrong? If I deposited money in the bank for 50 years, am I wrong to collect the principle and interest when I retire? Unlike you, I am definitely able to live till death without collecting SS but I paid it, I am collecting it. I have weed and more classic cars to buy. I bet it kills you to know I will be driving a beautiful 1st generation Camaro paid for with SS payments. I might even buy 3. One red, one white and one blue. What a country.
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
And your party said exactly the same thing about SS, Medicare, early childhood education, unemployment compensation (and how much of that have you drawn), workman's comp and on and on and on. As of yesterday despite the fact that not a single GOP member of either the House or the Senate voted in favor of the stimulus package because it too was "reckless spending" not a single GOP governor has refused and returned the stimulus money they were appropriated. And now Manchin has shot down the BBB which if it had passed would allow people as young as 55 to buy into Medicare and despite the fact that his state already is by far a recipient state. Rest assured they would have been plenty of 55 year old uninsured Republicans who would have leaped at the chance to enroll early in Medicare and and an equal number of Republican grandparents raising their grandkids and in some cases their great grandkids who are now struggling to get by following the expiration of the child care credit that BBB would have reestablished.
Don't worry I expect Manchin to lave the Democrats but lacks the political testicles to become a registered Republican instead become an independent but caucus with the Republicans.
Haven't drawn a single dime from anything yet. Still trying to get rich so that you'll think I'm a fatcat Republican.
 

Serf

Well-Known Member
For what it’s worth; I asked our Engineer about combined buildings. He said it’s absolutely going to happen. And ideally Express would be doing FO, P1, SOS. Pickups too. That’s it. Ground would move everything else. In addition to a new E star program rolled out in February. Similar to DRA.
 

Working4the1%

Well-Known Member
I'm in Florida helping my dad out. Leaving for Mexico mid January. Argentina for now is requiring vaccination to enter and I'm not. Need to be near my parents anyways.
So all that planing and saving for Argentina out the window what a waste. Your my favorite Republican…an unvaccinated one. Show us weak Democrats how tough you are
 

vantexan

Well-Known Member
So all that planing and saving for Argentina out the window what a waste. Your my favorite Republican…an unvaccinated one. Show us weak Democrats how tough you are
I'll spend maybe $200 a month more in Mexico/Guatemala. So heading there and will still save money. I may even take advantage of impoverished locals so that @bacha29 will flip out.

I'm not against vaccines but there are a lot of questions about these new vaccines. Waiting to see how it shakes out before getting vaccinated. The Omicron variant is turning out to be pretty mild which is what happens to viruses over time. So very possible before too long vaccination won't be necessary. Just a matter of prying control out of the hands of crazy Democrats who are trying to scare us with the new variant when reports from pretty much everywhere Omicron is at show that it isn't a killer.
 

bacha29

Well-Known Member
He voted against the bill because it was irresponsible garbage. Cherry picking one thing in a giant wasteful bill is disingenuous.

It's a pathetic political tactic used by people who can't defend their opinions in a real way. Typical for you.

Now deflect little lady.
Talk about "deflecting". It's about the eagerness on the part of loyal "conservatives" to enroll and collect benefits while demonizing the party and the political movement responsible for the programs creation . It is so hypocritical and disingenuous. But they're not fooling anybody. Simply doing the Democrat bashing as a way to coverup the fact that they are poor and dependent on those programs. Oh we always hear...."well I paid into it ". But, when asked the question:..."What would you have done if the legislation had failed to pass and the program never came into existence"?..... Crickets.
 
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