Well then, it's solved. It wasn't "northern aggression" or any thing like that. It wasn't even that they had no choice but to use slaves. They chose an unsustainable business model.No Duh.
Well then, it's solved. It wasn't "northern aggression" or any thing like that. It wasn't even that they had no choice but to use slaves. They chose an unsustainable business model.No Duh.
Don't try and tell the Republicans that.Go back into this thread and read as I already addressed that. Slavery is/was an economic order that as much became seen as immoral as much as it became economically obsolete and unsustainable. I think the first helped to expedite the second. And rightly so too.
Here is a timeline of slavery that began its collapse well before the events of 1860.
Regardless of the war itself, industrial mechanization or what became industrial farming would have ended slavery as well so the coffin of slavery was already shut and most nails driven in the lid to begin with.
Do you think the southern whites would had freed their slaves without a war.
And Lincoln said he wouldn't touch the institution of slavery.
So you would have let slavery survive long after 1865, just to avoid looking at a Confederate flag?
Becuase slavery would have survived both of Lincoln's terms.
So how long do you think it would take to kill slavery once and for all, without a civil war?
Yes.Well then, it's solved. It wasn't "northern aggression" or any thing like that. It wasn't even that they had no choice but to use slaves. They chose an unsustainable business model.
No. You seemed to suggest that the South had no choice but to secede and that the resulting war was the only way slavery was going to end. Wk showed in his time line that slavery across the world was coming to an end. Industrial technology existed to (with development) make slavery obsolete but the south stubbornly and stupidly refused to embrace it. Instead they clung to their "way of life" and paid dearly for it. Slavery could have ended quietly in the industrial revolution. The South chose relinquish it at the end of a gun.Yes.
You are just now realizing this?
Kind ife like FedEx ground??No. You seemed to suggest that the South had no choice but to secede and that the resulting war was the only way slavery was going to end. Wk showed in his time line that slavery across the world was coming to an end. Industrial technology existed to (with development) make slavery obsolete but the south stubbornly and stupidly refused to embrace it. Instead they clung to their "way of life" and paid dearly for it. Slavery could have ended quietly in the industrial revolution. The South chose relinquish it at the end of a gun.
They chose to secede.No. You seemed to suggest that the South had no choice but to secede and that the resulting war was the only way slavery was going to end. Wk showed in his time line that slavery across the world was coming to an end. Industrial technology existed to (with development) make slavery obsolete but the south stubbornly and stupidly refused to embrace it. Instead they clung to their "way of life" and paid dearly for it. Slavery could have ended quietly in the industrial revolution. The South chose relinquish it at the end of a gun.
Am I supposed to be offended?Kind ife like FedEx ground??
Cheap labor to the end???
It will come to a stop.
Independent contractor my ass!!
Sort of like slavery?Am I supposed to be offended?
As long as money is in politics there will be little change.
Kind ife like FedEx ground??
Cheap labor to the end???
It will come to a stop.
Independent contractor my ass!!
I think it could come to something like that.Sort of like slavery?
Maybe you need a civil war so you can get better pay?
The only problem is that nobody will be willing to fight to get you more money.I think it could come to something like that.
Very trueThe other irony on the part of Northern Industrialists was that slaves were a source of cheap labor. Over time that cheap labor was replaced with folk south of the border, eastern Europe and Asia.
Names and places change but the ultimate end never really does.
I will do just fine. The model sucks for drivers. Contractors can do ok.The only problem is that nobody will be willing to fight to get you more money.
Millions were willing to fight to save our union and to free the slaves.
Because phony time lines don't abolish slavery.Don't try and tell the Republicans that.
"Freed the slaves" is their battle cry.
They don't like $10 an hour an no benefits?I will do just fine. The model sucks for drivers. Contractors can do ok.
I don't like it either. Then again I don't like Walmart either. Welcome to the economy. When will it change? Only when it has to.They don't like $10 an hour an no benefits?
FedEx craps all over them...no joke!!I don't like it either. Then again I don't like Walmart either. Welcome to the economy. When will it change? Only when it has to.
As long as it sucks for someone else besides you........right?I will do just fine. The model sucks for drivers. Contractors can do ok.