Contract raises vs. state minimum wage

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
Best I can tell, PTCD is something Dan made up.
I'd be curious to see the contract language that covers "PTCD"'s.

APPENDIX A
UPSTATE/WEST NEW YORK DISTRICTS
WAGE SCHEDULE


All wage schedules will be adjusted to reflect the 2013 National Bargaining Agreement.

Appendix A

Upstate/West New York Districts

Section 1 New Part-Time Cover Driver

A) Seniority part-time employees can work as Temporary Cover
drivers as coverage for seniority full-time package and feeder drivers.

B) The rate of pay for part-time employees working as Temporary
Cover drivers shall be the greater of their part-time rate or the following
rates:

Start: 60% of the prevailing top rate for package or feeder classification.
After one (1) year: 65% of the prevailing top rate for package or
feeder classification.

After two (2) years: 75% of the prevailing top rate for package or
feeder classification.

Part-time employees who are working as Temporary Cover drivers
as of the effective date of this agreement shall keep their current
cover rate or be slotted in this new progression, whichever is higher.
Casuals still remaining on the payroll who have job opportunity
dates shall be paid 65% of the top rate of package drivers.

C) Part-time employees working as Temporary Cover drivers will
do so for a minimum of one week at a time and will be guaranteed
a minimum of two days planned coverage per week that they are
working as a Temporary Cover driver. All part-time cover drivers
working in the package or feeder classification shall be guaranteed
eight (8) hours per day.

D) Part-time employees working as Temporary Cover drivers shall
maintain their part-time benefits and entitlements.

E) Part-time employees who successfully complete a thirty (30) day
qualification period working as a Temporary Cover driver will not
have to complete another probationary period as a successful bidder
on a regular full-time package or feeder driver job in their classification.

friend) Part-time employees working as Temporary Cover drivers who
successfully bid a regular full-time delivery or feeder driver job
shall maintain their rate of pay until the progression as detailed in
Article 41 surpasses this rate.

G) 1) As of the date of ratification, all existing preferred casuals
who do not have a part-time seniority date shall be assigned a fulltime
job opportunity date to be thirty (30) days from their date of
hire. For these affected employees, this date will be used solely for
the attainment of full-time job opportunities.

2) Casual employees will earn one roving holiday for every fifty
(50) days worked in the current year.

3) Casual employees who accept a full-time seniority position shall
be paid the appropriate part-time rate of pay based on their job
opportunity date and remain at that rate until the progression as
detailed in Article 41 surpasses that rate.

4) If a casual employee is injured on the job, the Employer will
make Health and Welfare contributions until the employee returns
to work, not to exceed four (4) weeks.

H) Once an employee qualifies as a coverage driver, they will be
assigned to a specific center for coverage opportunities. Vacations
will be picked on that center’s vacation list. No part-time cover
driver shall have the right to pick vacation ahead of a package driver
in that center.

I) If an employee disqualifies him/her self during the 30-day qualifying
period, he will be prohibited from re-qualifying for two years.

If the Company disqualifies him, he will be prohibited from qualifying
for one year. No employee will receive more than two opportunities
to qualify.

Employees that have previously qualified as part-time cover drivers
who no longer wish to be part-time cover drivers and return to their
status as inside part-time employees shall provide their immediate
manager with proper written notice sixty (60) days in advance of the
date they wish to remove themselves as a part-time cover driver. Any
employee that removes themselves as a part time cover driver shall do
so for a period of three (3) years and lose all wage progression credits
and will have to requalify prior to assuming any future driving position.
No more than 10% of a center’s part time cover drivers shall be
allowed to disqualify themselves in a 12 month period.

J) The Company maintains the right to hire Temporary Cover drivers
from the outside after exhausting qualified inside part-timers.
Such employees shall be hired when there is a need for part time
cover drivers but no need for inside part time employees.
Employees hired under this provision shall work as PT cover drivers
as outlined above in Appendix A, however, the company is
under no obligation to provide them with inside work opportunity.
Outside Temporary Cover Drivers shall gain seniority pursuant to
Article 57 section 1 (b) of the Upstate West New York Supplemental
Agreement. Should Part time inside positions become available
such positions will be offered to outside Temporary Cover drivers
in seniority order prior to hiring from the outside. This opportunity
will be extended to each employee on a one-time basis. Should the
employee decline the opportunity the employee will have no future
right to work as an inside PT employee.
 

Mr. Sir

Box slinger
Quit being a whiner. For the job you do and the technology that is there u shouldn't be making that. Only if there was a way to have robots load the trucks we wouldn't need any teamsters

so what happens when driverless trucks and drones eventually take full swing if it ever did ? Bye bye obsurd $34 an hour
 

RealPerson

Well-Known Member
Your opinion of a fair days pay is different than everybody else's.

Check into wages for

FedEx loaders.
Grocery store stockers.
Warehouse loaders.
Amazon workers.

UPS really isn't far off of what everyone else pays for the same type of unskilled labor.

Or do you think a high school dropout should make as much loading trailers as a CPA who went to college for 4 years?

And trust me, a lot of CPA's are barely making ends meet.

Different working conditions and rate of work. Neighbor works FedX, ha, he would die loading at UPS.

One thing in our building, for every 3 people we hire 4 quit. Can get an easier job, climate controlled, no one yelling at you, safer, so on so on, for .50 less an hour...
We have every supervisor working in our building we are so short handed. Tour groups every week, and no one stays..... 20+ years ago when starting wage was almost double min wage, you had to fight to get a job at UPS, no one quit. Took 6 years to go driving, heck they drive at 6 months now...
 

twoweeled

Well-Known Member
Great to see ups pays minimum wage. Literally!!!

Go fold clothes at the mall. I would much rather do that for minimum wage than load a dirty hot/cold feeder
Minimum wage? So much for Brotherly love, Unity and all that other BS bologna we're told about. Screw the new hires, and screw the retirees. I got mine, get yours! We're down trending, people. Badly!
 

twoweeled

Well-Known Member
How about in a year as a driver making $18.75/hr?
I think I reached around $14.10 an hour AFTER 6 MONTHS, over 33 years ago. We're only $4 an hour difference in 33 years. Inflation hasn't gone up that much, has it?
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twoweeled

Well-Known Member
Last I checked folding clothes at the mall didn't have a top rate or a Benifits package.
Last time I checked, folding clothes didn't result in knee operations, neck issues, shoulder surgeries, chronic back issues with many requiring surgeries, requirements like so many clothes folded per minute, a time clock on you every minute of every single day ie belt stopping at break, your board recording when break started and when work begins and ends.
THEY HAVE A GOOD HEALTH PLAN BECAUSE THEY NEED IT TO CONTINUE WORKING.
 

Mugarolla

Light 'em up!
Different working conditions and rate of work. Neighbor works FedX, ha, he would die loading at UPS.

One thing in our building, for every 3 people we hire 4 quit. Can get an easier job, climate controlled, no one yelling at you, safer, so on so on, for .50 less an hour...
We have every supervisor working in our building we are so short handed. Tour groups every week, and no one stays..... 20+ years ago when starting wage was almost double min wage, you had to fight to get a job at UPS, no one quit. Took 6 years to go driving, heck they drive at 6 months now...

The rate of pay for a job is not based on climatic conditions or whether a sup yells at you.

You're saying that PTers shod be paid more because their job is physical, their sup yells at them and they don't have AC.

I would like to agree with you, but that is not how rates of pay are determined.

They are determined by the market, the companies, the unions and the education (skill level) needed.

Since UPS cannot keep employees, I agree with you and have said it before.

They may have to increase their PT wages to keep people over and above what the government says is the minimum that they have to pay employees.
 

Gimme Danger

Well-Known Member
Last time I checked, folding clothes didn't result in knee operations, neck issues, shoulder surgeries, chronic back issues with many requiring surgeries, requirements like so many clothes folded per minute, a time clock on you every minute of every single day ie belt stopping at break, your board recording when break started and when work begins and ends.
THEY HAVE A GOOD HEALTH PLAN BECAUSE THEY NEED IT TO CONTINUE WORKING.
Those sounds like workers comp issues, not health benefit claims. Don't let ups rob the benefit funds by not reporting workplace injuries.
 

Gimme Danger

Well-Known Member
I think I reached around $14.10 an hour AFTER 6 MONTHS, over 33 years ago. We're only $4 an hour difference in 33 years. Inflation hasn't gone up that much, has it?
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Yes, pay changed dramatically after 1982.
I was merely stating that part timers are starting at 10.15 and then jumping to 18.75 driving rate after one year of part time.
 

wide load

Starting wage is a waste of time.
The primary reason UPS raises rates everywhere is to generate the revenue to pay the Teamster negotiated contract with it's employees.
Non-Union employees have gotten none or small raises for 10 years now.
Dave Abney in non union right? He seemed to do ok. Might want to cry on his shoulder instead. But, your saying even beyond our negotiated wage where UPS is generating record profits in the muti BILLIONS, that:
1) UPS has to raise rates
and
2) Cut its non union raises and pension?
And this is something you truly believe?
 
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