I'm not sure about Malone.
His loss on the the money side of all that's went down, I think gave him the red ass. I think it's been less than a year ago, and he still gets the Moderna jab. Sure. I think he's bitter and so now he's undermining confidence in the very vaccine he says wouldn’t be possible without his genius.
No single scientist or researcher can lay claim to the vax. You're talking about hundreds of people involved for 30 years. The very fact he claims he's the one sheds doubt about his past actions and what he is saying now being credible.
Much of the Rogan interview was about money. Whose making it, who they are not letting make it. and we are killing people by withholding meds, etc.