UnionStrong
Sorry, but I don’t care anymore.
Stop being obtuse, it’s unbecoming of you.
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Bad Moon Risen'
They can decline it if they so choose. You'd think maybe a billionaire would pay for their own?
Then on that same vein shouldn't all income be taxed for Social Security?
oldngray
nowhere special
Five years after media said lab-leak theory was racist and incendiary, CIA admits lab leak is most likely cause of Covid
Congrats to all the normal people without fancy degrees who knew this based on common sense in 2020.
notthebee.com
And while we are on the subject...
Let us gaze upon what Pfizer wanted buried for longer than the JFK assassination files...
9 whole pages of side effects they knew about their "safe and effective" juice...
Let us gaze upon what Pfizer wanted buried for longer than the JFK assassination files...
9 whole pages of side effects they knew about their "safe and effective" juice...
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
It‘s bad enough that someone took it but it is a whole new level of dumb for someone to still be standing up for the fake vax.
Doublestandards
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You guys really need to start getting information from sources besides Twitter, and looking into how the process works
These were voluntary reports. It’s not confirmed through scientific method or anything official. It’s people submitting themselves. One of the side effects was “deja vu”
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reports to VAERS post-vaccination “do not necessarily mean that a vaccine caused a health problem” – and anyone can submit a report, regardless of plausibility.
The FDA spokesperson added: “In fact, reviews by FDA and CDC have determined that the vast majority of the deaths reported are not directly attributable to the vaccines. FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it’s unclear whether the vaccine was the cause.”
“Spontaneous case reports of suspected adverse reactions alone are rarely sufficient to prove that a certain suspected reaction has indeed been caused by a specific medicine. This could be a symptom of another illness, or it could be associated with another medicinal product taken by the patient at the same time. Hence, a case report should be seen as a piece of a jigsaw puzzle.”
They added: “For most medicines, the vast majority of suspected side effects are not eventually confirmed as side effects.”
Darmark7
Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
Looks like we still have people defending this.
www.justice.gov
Pfizer Agrees to Pay Nearly 60M to Resolve False Claims Allegations Relating to Improper Physician Payments by Subsidiary
Pharmaceutical company Pfizer Inc. (Pfizer), on behalf of its wholly-owned subsidiary Biohaven Pharmaceutical Holding Company Ltd. (Biohaven), has agreed to pay $59,746,277 to resolve allegations that, prior to Pfizer’s acquisition of the company, Biohaven knowingly caused the submission of...
I can't imagine why officials who are pro vaccine would question the validity of adverse reactions on VAERS. Well established that many young adults suffered myocarditis after being vaccinated. And AFTER the vaccines came out young healthy adults were dropping dead all over the world and the common denominator was vaccinations. Looks to me that we've gotten past all that but when it was happening we had government officials downplaying the deaths as well as the lack of protection the vaccines were providing against Covid.
Doublestandards
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Can you tell me what you think the solution to this should be?Looks like we still have people defending this.
Pfizer Agrees to Pay Nearly 60M to Resolve False Claims Allegations Relating to Improper Physician Payments by Subsidiary
Pharmaceutical company Pfizer Inc. (Pfizer), on behalf of its wholly-owned subsidiary Biohaven Pharmaceutical Holding Company Ltd. (Biohaven), has agreed to pay $59,746,277 to resolve allegations that, prior to Pfizer’s acquisition of the company, Biohaven knowingly caused the submission of...
Doublestandards
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Because it’s self reporting and useless
Less than 1 per 100,000
Myocarditis following COVID‐19 vaccine: incidence, presentation, diagnosis, pathophysiology, therapy, and outcomes put into perspective. A clinical consensus document supported by the Heart Failure Association of the European Society of Cardiology (E
Over 10 million doses of COVID‐19 vaccines based on RNA technology, viral vectors, recombinant protein, and inactivated virus have been administered worldwide. Although generally very safe, post‐vaccine myocarditis can result from adaptive humoral ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Not true
“The findings in the new report come from the analysis of nearly 1,300 death certificates of Oregon residents ages 16 to 30 who died from any heart condition or unknown reasons between June 1, 2021, and Dec. 31, 2022.
During this time period, nearly 1 million teens and young adults in the state had gotten a Covid vaccine, the authors wrote.
The authors refined their focus to people who got an mRNA Covid vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna and died within 100 days of being vaccinated.
Out of 40 deaths that occurred among people who got an mRNA Covid vaccine, three occurred within that time frame.
Two of the deaths were attributed to chronic underlying health conditions.
The third death was recorded as an “undetermined natural cause,” with toxicology tests returning negative for alcohol, cannabis, methamphetamine or other illicit substances.
While it remains unclear whether the vaccine caused the third death, Cieslak noted that the analysis showed that 30 people died from Covid during the time frame, the majority of whom were not vaccinated.
“When you’re balancing risks and benefits, you have to look at that and go, ‘You got to bet on the vaccine,’” he said.
Dr. Leslie Cooper, chair of the cardiology department at the Mayo Clinic, who was not involved in the study, said the researchers were actually “quite generous” in their analysis, adding that the 100-day time frame following vaccination was a large one.
“They went above and beyond to try and capture any possible cardiac death from vaccinations,” he said.
Even with the lengthy time frame, Cooper added, the analysis shows that the risk of sudden death in young adults after being vaccinated is significantly lower than the risk of sudden cardiac death from all causes — about 1 in 500,000 per year, compared to 1 in 100,000 per year, according to his estimates.
The data shows “no signal for any elevation in cardiac deaths associated with the Covid mRNA vaccines,” he said. “Their conclusions are quite reasonable.”
No vaccine has ever been conclusively linked to sudden cardiac death, said Dr. Ofer Levy, the director of the Precision Vaccines Program at Boston Children’s Hospital.
Although the mRNA vaccines have been linked to a small risk of myocarditis, the heart condition tends to be much milder than what is typically seen with traditional myocarditis from Covid infection, he added, and most people fully recover within a few days.
“This adds to evidence that people don’t drop dead from getting their mRNA Covid vaccines,” Levy said of the study.
No one is saying that all young adults who got the vaccine got myocarditis or dropped dead. But thousands did. And the number of those that dropped dead during the pandemic were much, much more than before or after the pandemic. Worldwide.Because it’s self reporting and useless
Less than 1 per 100,000
Myocarditis following COVID‐19 vaccine: incidence, presentation, diagnosis, pathophysiology, therapy, and outcomes put into perspective. A clinical consensus document supported by the Heart Failure Association of the European Society of Cardiology (E
Over 10 million doses of COVID‐19 vaccines based on RNA technology, viral vectors, recombinant protein, and inactivated virus have been administered worldwide. Although generally very safe, post‐vaccine myocarditis can result from adaptive humoral ...
Not true
“The findings in the new report come from the analysis of nearly 1,300 death certificates of Oregon residents ages 16 to 30 who died from any heart condition or unknown reasons between June 1, 2021, and Dec. 31, 2022.
During this time period, nearly 1 million teens and young adults in the state had gotten a Covid vaccine, the authors wrote.
The authors refined their focus to people who got an mRNA Covid vaccine from Pfizer or Moderna and died within 100 days of being vaccinated.
Out of 40 deaths that occurred among people who got an mRNA Covid vaccine, three occurred within that time frame.
Two of the deaths were attributed to chronic underlying health conditions.
The third death was recorded as an “undetermined natural cause,” with toxicology tests returning negative for alcohol, cannabis, methamphetamine or other illicit substances.
While it remains unclear whether the vaccine caused the third death, Cieslak noted that the analysis showed that 30 people died from Covid during the time frame, the majority of whom were not vaccinated.
“When you’re balancing risks and benefits, you have to look at that and go, ‘You got to bet on the vaccine,’” he said.
Dr. Leslie Cooper, chair of the cardiology department at the Mayo Clinic, who was not involved in the study, said the researchers were actually “quite generous” in their analysis, adding that the 100-day time frame following vaccination was a large one.
“They went above and beyond to try and capture any possible cardiac death from vaccinations,” he said.
Even with the lengthy time frame, Cooper added, the analysis shows that the risk of sudden death in young adults after being vaccinated is significantly lower than the risk of sudden cardiac death from all causes — about 1 in 500,000 per year, compared to 1 in 100,000 per year, according to his estimates.
The data shows “no signal for any elevation in cardiac deaths associated with the Covid mRNA vaccines,” he said. “Their conclusions are quite reasonable.”
No vaccine has ever been conclusively linked to sudden cardiac death, said Dr. Ofer Levy, the director of the Precision Vaccines Program at Boston Children’s Hospital.
Although the mRNA vaccines have been linked to a small risk of myocarditis, the heart condition tends to be much milder than what is typically seen with traditional myocarditis from Covid infection, he added, and most people fully recover within a few days.
“This adds to evidence that people don’t drop dead from getting their mRNA Covid vaccines,” Levy said of the study.
Doublestandards
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There is a huge difference between getting myocarditis and dropping dead. You need to clarify more
Well, yeah. We were in a pandemic. Your claim just shows the vaccines worked
Thebrownblob
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Young adults under 18 were not dropping dead from the virus in large percentages.
Share of total COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
As of April 26, 2023, around 27 percent of total COVID-19 deaths in the United States have been among adults 85 years and older, despite this age group only accounting for two percent of the U.S.
www.statista.com
Doublestandards
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I never said they wereYoung adults under 18 were not dropping dead from the virus in large percentages.
Share of total COVID-19 deaths by age U.S. 2023 | Statista
As of April 26, 2023, around 27 percent of total COVID-19 deaths in the United States have been among adults 85 years and older, despite this age group only accounting for two percent of the U.S.
Thebrownblob
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Myocarditis even mild will definitely shorten a young adults life.
In this Danish study, all-cause mortality was 16.9% over 8.5 years, and even younger patients who recovered from acute myocarditis without complications were associated with an excessive risk of heart failure and death compared to age and sex-matched controls in the long term
10-year survival outcome after clinically suspected acute myocarditis in adults: A nationwide study in the pre-COVID-19 era - PMC
Clinical courses of acute myocarditis are heterogeneous in populations and geographic regions. There is a dearth of long-term outcomes data for acute myocarditis prior to the coronavirus disease pandemic, particularly in the older and female ...
pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov
Doublestandards
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Couple thingsMyocarditis even mild will definitely shorten a young adults life.
In this Danish study, all-cause mortality was 16.9% over 8.5 years, and even younger patients who recovered from acute myocarditis without complications were associated with an excessive risk of heart failure and death compared to age and sex-matched controls in the long term
10-year survival outcome after clinically suspected acute myocarditis in adults: A nationwide study in the pre-COVID-19 era - PMC
Clinical courses of acute myocarditis are heterogeneous in populations and geographic regions. There is a dearth of long-term outcomes data for acute myocarditis prior to the coronavirus disease pandemic, particularly in the older and female ...
First, that study is for people 20-79 and who were hospitalized
Second, you are ELEVEN times more likely to get myocarditis from Covid than you are to get it from the vaccine. And getting the vaccine was shown to reduce your chances of getting it cut in half
“In the new study, researchers analyzed records from England's National Immunization database for nearly 43 million people 13 or older who had received at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine between Dec. 1, 2020 and Dec. 15, 2021. More than 21 million had received three doses of the vaccine – the initial two-shot regimen plus a booster. Nearly 6 million tested positive for COVID-19 either before or after receiving a vaccine. During the one-year study period, 2,861 people – or 0.007% – were hospitalized or died with myocarditis.
The analysis showed people infected with COVID-19 before receiving a vaccine were 11 times more at risk for developing myocarditis within 28 days of testing positive for the virus. But that risk was cut in half if a person was infected after receiving at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine.”
COVID-19 infection poses higher risk for myocarditis than vaccines
The overall risk of myocarditis was higher immediately after being infected with COVID-19 than in the weeks after vaccination for the coronavirus, new research shows.
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There were thousands worldwide who dropped dead after getting vaccinated. Happened to a lot of athletes.
Doublestandards
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Correlation does not equal causation. One of the first things you learn in science. Show me sources to back up your claims
Hundreds of millions of people were vaccinated, you saw a couple videos of an athlete dropping, and are making very big leaps
Thebrownblob
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You can go ahead and trust Pfizer all you want. I will explain to you. They are the most evil deadly dishonest corporation in the world. I wouldn’t trust them with anything. Especially not my life.
