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MrFedEx

Engorged Member
Your ignorance is showing. True Creation doesn’t require any ingredients.
And only fundamentalists deny evolution, and MFE is proof of mutation.

OK, Genius. In the beginning, there was....drumroll please!! NOTHING that we know of. I always hear the BS that "God always is, always was, and always will be". OK, so where did God come from?

There is no satisfactory answer, and you and others will almost invariably toss out the above nonsense line.

There had to be something, but logic would seem to dictate it wasn't a god. Did God create Himself?
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
OK, Genius. In the beginning, there was....drumroll please!! NOTHING that we know of. I always hear the BS that "God always is, always was, and always will be". OK, so where did God come from?

There is no satisfactory answer, and you and others will almost invariably toss out the above nonsense line.

There had to be something, but logic would seem to dictate it wasn't a god. Did God create Himself?
Logic demands there is a God.
Creation demands a Creator.
The study of origin (strictly speaking) is not a scientific study.
Science deals with existing material, and seeks to explain how things in the known universe function. Science does not tell us how these things came to be at all.

"Something can come from nothing." --Stephen Hawking...LOL
Hey..nonsense is nonsense , I don't care what genius said it.
How stupid are the positions people take and the lengths they will go to deny there is a God.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
There had to be something
To be contingent means that a being cannot account for its own existence. A contingent being is dependent upon something or someone other than itself for its own existence. This would be true for its coming into existence and remaining in existence from one moment to the next.
You and I are such a being. Our existence was originated from outside ourselves, and our existence continues from outside ourselves.

A non-contingent being is one that does not depend upon any other being for its existence. It is self-existent. Since it could neither come into existence nor pass out of existence, such a being is eternal. In the beginning [when nothing contingent at all existed], God [a non-contingent Being] created the heavens and the earth
 

MAKAVELI

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rickyb

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not a third world "socialist" country:

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Fred's Myth

Nonhyphenated American
To be contingent means that a being cannot account for its own existence. A contingent being is dependent upon something or someone other than itself for its own existence. This would be true for its coming into existence and remaining in existence from one moment to the next.
You and I are such a being. Our existence was originated from outside ourselves, and our existence continues from outside ourselves.

A non-contingent being is one that does not depend upon any other being for its existence. It is self-existent. Since it could neither come into existence nor pass out of existence, such a being is eternal. In the beginning [when nothing contingent at all existed], God [a non-contingent Being] created the heavens and the earth
And since our only experience is life based on pre-existing life, we rebel at the thought of a Being who is uncreated, whose existence is inherent, infinite, and eternal.
 

fishtm2001

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This should come as no surprise. As Maggie Haberman and Peter Baker of the New York Times put it:

Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know.
 

vantexan

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This should come as no surprise. As Maggie Haberman and Peter Baker of the New York Times put it:

Mr. Trump’s performance on the national stage in recent weeks has put on display the traits that Democrats and some Republicans consider so jarring — the profound need for personal praise, the propensity to blame others, the lack of human empathy, the penchant for rewriting history, the disregard for expertise, the distortion of facts, the impatience with scrutiny or criticism. For years, skeptics expressed concern about how he would handle a genuine crisis threatening the nation, and now they know.
With all of his failings he also has the ability to cut through the B.S. and get things done. Ultimately for a president it comes down to results. Let's see how this all ends before totally writing Trump off. The Press has danced on his grave repeatedly only to have it blow up in their face and it may just do the same here.
 
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