It will be fine
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That’s not actually true. That’s a myth you believe without evidence.
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You can spin all you want but after Trump lowered taxes we hit record low unemployment.
Sportello
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Trump tax cuts did little to boost economic growth in 2018, study says
The Congressional Research Service indicated that the cuts delivered the most benefits to corporations and the rich, with little boost to workers.
Sportello
Well-Known Member
Hmmmm.
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
You meditating lady?
Jumpin Jack Flash
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132,129 dead Americans, 2.892+million infected. The numbers are trickling in today because of the holiday. The President traveled to S. Dakota for a fireworks show. Many Americans can’t figure out if Trump and his supporters were celebrating the deaths of 132,000+ Americans.
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upschuck
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Brownslave688
You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
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fishtm2001
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These 7 charts show Trump's tax cuts still haven't been the economic 'rocket fuel' he promised, 2 years after the fact
The law achieved none of the ambitious goals that Republicans set when they were selling the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act.
markets.businessinsider.com
not exactly a left wing source
fishtm2001
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The National Association of Business Economics released a survey earlier this year finding the overwhelming majority of US businesses - or 84% - didn't speed up their hiring or invest more as a result of the Republican tax cuts.
Yah, the whole lowest unemployment records were a myth. Gotcha.
It will be fine
Well-Known Member
Your belief that the tax cuts were the cause of the low unemployment is the myth. This isn’t difficult, you chose to believe something that is objectively not true.
Businesses expanded, people were hired. If what you are saying is true then I guess Obama would have never said those jobs aren't coming back. The truth is we had a excellent economy before the virus hit. You're in denial.
Found it. Not what he said it was though.
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Old Man Jingles
Rat out of a cage
Jumpin Jack Flash
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132,236 dead American, 2.928+ million infected. Even with the closing of bars, and many beaches in Florida, the Trump Flu is continuing its devastation on the state. The economy is tanking and 11,000+ more infected today! Another record for Florida! The state of Tennessee is starting to heat up with over 1,000 infected today! It’s going to be a long fall and winter for the deadly southern and western states. Never mind that gun violence is exploding with the reopening. Texas, Arizona, and the Carolinas are all well over 1,000 infected today!
DriveInDriveOut
Inordinately Right
What does that have to do with the union?
zubenelgenubi
I'm a star
Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
Pandemic Influenza—Personal Protective Measures
wwwnc.cdc.gov
"In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10). Study designs in the 7 household studies were slightly different: 1 study provided face masks and P2 respirators for household contacts only (34), another study evaluated face mask use as a source control for infected persons only (35), and the remaining studies provided masks for the infected persons as well as their close contacts (11–13,15,17). None of the household studies reported a significant reduction in secondary laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the face mask group (11–13,15,17,34,35). Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
Learn about similarities and differences between flu and COVID-19.
www.cdc.gov
How it spreads
Similarities
"Both COVID-19 and flu can spread from person-to-person, between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Both are spread mainly by droplets made when people with the illness (COVID-19 or flu) cough, sneeze, or talk.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
It may be possible that a person can get infected by physical human contact (e.g. shaking hands) or by touching a surface or object that has virus on it and then touching his or her own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.
Both flu virus and SARS-CoV-2 may be spread to others by people before they begin showing symptoms, with very mild symptoms or who never developed symptoms (asymptomatic)."
Masks have not proven to be effective at preventing the spread of the flu. The flu and covid spread in the same ways.
Coclusion: masks are ineffective at stopping the spread of covid.
MAKAVELI
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Both are spread mainly by droplets made when people with the illness (COVID-19 or flu) cough, sneeze, or talk.Nonpharmaceutical Measures for Pandemic Influenza in Nonhealthcare Settings—Personal Protective and Environmental Measures
Pandemic Influenza—Personal Protective Measures
"In our systematic review, we identified 10 RCTs that reported estimates of the effectiveness of face masks in reducing laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the community from literature published during 1946–July 27, 2018. In pooled analysis, we found no significant reduction in influenza transmission with the use of face masks (RR 0.78, 95% CI 0.51–1.20; I2 = 30%, p = 0.25) (Figure 2). One study evaluated the use of masks among pilgrims from Australia during the Hajj pilgrimage and reported no major difference in the risk for laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infection in the control or mask group (33). Two studies in university settings assessed the effectiveness of face masks for primary protection by monitoring the incidence of laboratory-confirmed influenza among student hall residents for 5 months (9,10). The overall reduction in ILI or laboratory-confirmed influenza cases in the face mask group was not significant in either studies (9,10). Study designs in the 7 household studies were slightly different: 1 study provided face masks and P2 respirators for household contacts only (34), another study evaluated face mask use as a source control for infected persons only (35), and the remaining studies provided masks for the infected persons as well as their close contacts (11–13,15,17). None of the household studies reported a significant reduction in secondary laboratory-confirmed influenza virus infections in the face mask group (11–13,15,17,34,35). Most studies were underpowered because of limited sample size, and some studies also reported suboptimal adherence in the face mask group.
Disposable medical masks (also known as surgical masks) are loose-fitting devices that were designed to be worn by medical personnel to protect accidental contamination of patient wounds, and to protect the wearer against splashes or sprays of bodily fluids (36). There is limited evidence for their effectiveness in preventing influenza virus transmission either when worn by the infected person for source control or when worn by uninfected persons to reduce exposure. Our systematic review found no significant effect of face masks on transmission of laboratory-confirmed influenza."
Similarities and Differences between Flu and COVID-19
Learn about similarities and differences between flu and COVID-19.
How it spreads
Similarities
"Both COVID-19 and flu can spread from person-to-person, between people who are in close contact with one another (within about 6 feet).
Both are spread mainly by droplets made when people with the illness (COVID-19 or flu) cough, sneeze, or talk.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
It may be possible that a person can get infected by physical human contact (e.g. shaking hands) or by touching a surface or object that has virus on it and then touching his or her own mouth, nose, or possibly their eyes.
Both flu virus and SARS-CoV-2 may be spread to others by people before they begin showing symptoms, with very mild symptoms or who never developed symptoms (asymptomatic)."
Masks have not proven to be effective at preventing the spread of the flu. The flu and covid spread in the same ways.
Coclusion: masks are ineffective at stopping the spread of covid.
These droplets can land in the mouths or noses of people who are nearby or possibly be inhaled into the lungs.
