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newfie

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By every metric Obama had better economic results than Trump, you just don’t believe in objective data. You have your faith and won’t be swayed.

every metric. dont remember Obama having record unemployment for blacks, hispanics and asians.
obama did not have female unemployment at a 56 year low as trump did.
Obama shrunk the manufacturing jobs and told the US those jobs were gone for good.
Obama never increased the wage rate like trump did.

what cherry picked "every" metric were you referring too?
 

vantexan

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You're putting the cart before the horse. The second statement in bold is the reason is the reason people were buying stocks, and one of the underlying
You're putting the cart before the horse. The second statement in bold is the reason is the reason people were buying stocks, and one of the underlying reasons for the bull market.

for the bull market.
Semantics. I said the same thing. After the real estate crash what was left to invest in on a large scale? And where does 401k money go into? And what did Obama do to assist business so that they could be more profitable? Did business pass along profits to employees on a wide scale in the form of better pay during the Obama years?
 

vantexan

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This ought to be interesting!

The idiot's news channel no less!
I had no idea you watch FOX News! Our little socialist is growing up!
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
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Semantics. I said the same thing. After the real estate crash what was left to invest in on a large scale? And where does 401k money go into? And what did Obama do to assist business so that they could be more profitable? Did business pass along profits to employees on a wide scale in the form of better pay during the Obama years?
We're not saying the same thing, and I still don't see where you provide any data to support this idea that we had a bull market because people didn't invest in real estate.
 

vantexan

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We're not saying the same thing, and I still don't see where you provide any data to support this idea that we had a bull market because people didn't invest in real estate.
And I don't see where you guys always say that Obama did this great, did that great, but when the stock market went up under Trump you insist it's not because of anything he did. As always whether a president gets reelected is often a referendum on how the majority thinks he did in his first term. So we'll see in November.
 

Jones

fILE A GRIEVE!
Staff member
And I don't see where you guys always say that Obama did this great, did that great, but when the stock market went up under Trump you insist it's not because of anything he did. As always whether a president gets reelected is often a referendum on how the majority thinks he did in his first term. So we'll see in November.
What does any of this have to do with your claim that we had a bull market because people stopped buying real estate?
 
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