Coronavirus

vantexan

Well-Known Member
“If the US had the same death rate as the European Union overall, nearly 84,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19 (out of the nearly 190,000 who have died so far)…If the US had the same death rate as Canada, nearly 109,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19…The US is doing about seven times worse than the median developed country, ranking in the bottom 20 percent for Covid-19 deaths among wealthy nations. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost as a result.”

Vox
If the governor of New York hasn't made boneheaded decisions tens of thousands lives wouldn't have been lost.
 

tonyexpress

Whac-A-Troll Patrol
Staff member
Biden has fought a pandemic before. It did not go smoothly.


“I wouldn’t go anywhere in confined places right now," Biden said. "It’s not that it’s going to Mexico, it’s that you are in a confined aircraft. When one person sneezes, it goes everywhere through the aircraft.”

Airlines angrily accused Biden of fearmongering. Media reports noted that Biden’s pessimism contrasted sharply with the reassurances President Barack Obama had given a day earlier, when he said there was no need to panic even as he declared a national health emergency. In a matter of hours, Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood, Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano and Deputy Secretary of State Jack Lew were summoned to the White House and assigned to clean up the mess Biden made: “Nip it in the bud,” LaHood said, recalling their instructions.

The snafu was the first of many scrambles and setbacks by the Obama administration in its initial response to the swine flu. POLITICO interviewed almost two dozen people, including administration officials, members of Congress and outsiders who contended with the administration’s response, and they described a litany of sadly familiar obstacles: vaccine shortfalls, fights over funding and sometimes contradictory messaging.

“It is purely a fortuity that this isn’t one of the great mass casualty events in American history,” Ron Klain, who was Biden’s chief of staff at the time, said of H1N1 in 2019. “It had nothing to do with us doing anything right. It just had to do with luck.
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
“If the US had the same death rate as the European Union overall, nearly 84,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19 (out of the nearly 190,000 who have died so far)…If the US had the same death rate as Canada, nearly 109,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19…The US is doing about seven times worse than the median developed country, ranking in the bottom 20 percent for Covid-19 deaths among wealthy nations. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost as a result.”

Vox

If the US had worried about being xenophobic and kept flights to china open millions more would have died- the experts
 

newfie

Well-Known Member
“If the US had the same death rate as the European Union overall, nearly 84,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19 (out of the nearly 190,000 who have died so far)…If the US had the same death rate as Canada, nearly 109,000 Americans wouldn’t have died from Covid-19…The US is doing about seven times worse than the median developed country, ranking in the bottom 20 percent for Covid-19 deaths among wealthy nations. Tens of thousands of lives have been lost as a result.”

Vox

death rate per million is 589 in the us comparible to many european countries

in the US
nj is the highest with 1809 per million
NY is the next with 1702 per million
Ma is next with 1336 per million
conn with 1257
Rhode island 1011

all democratic strongholds

which begs the question are these dem run states incompetent or did they deliberately let people die for political advantage
 

fishtm2001

Well-Known Member
Trump said in his interview with the Review-Journal that he is not afraid of getting the coronavirus from speaking at the indoor rally.

“I’m on a stage and it’s very far away,” Trump said. “And so I’m not at all concerned.”


But he cares nothing for his supporters who are crowded together, screaming and shouting in the crowd in front of him.
 

Babagounj

Strength through joy
Trump said in his interview with the Review-Journal that he is not afraid of getting the coronavirus from speaking at the indoor rally.

“I’m on a stage and it’s very far away,” Trump said. “And so I’m not at all concerned.”


But he cares nothing for his supporters who are crowded together, screaming and shouting in the crowd in front of him.
At least Biden cares about his supporters during open rallies. They don't allow any near the empty fields where he is speaking.
 

PT Stewie

"Big Fella"
BILL'S MESSAGE OF THE DAY
Is President Trump Responsible for Covid?
By: Bill O'ReillySeptember 14, 2020
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COVID is still making life hard in America - and around the world.
New York Governor Andrew Cuomo continues to say the virus and its devastation is all President Trump’s fault.
You may remember that Governor Cuomo demanded that New York State nursing homes accept elderly Covid patients.

That colossally bad decision led to thousands of deaths in nursing homes. So how can Covid be pinned on President Trump? It is a mystery of the universe.
And then there is merry old England – which is not very merry at the moment. Covid is making a big comeback there, so much so that the British government has banned groups of more than 6 – anywhere, anytime.
Is that Prime Minister Johnson’s fault? Is anyone putting the virus blame on Boris?
Then again maybe the contagion in Europe is Trump’s fault too – same in Brazil, Australia, and Botswana.
Yes - Trump is the ‘super spreader’ – just ask Andrew Cuomo, who is incredibly shifting blame from his own terrible nursing home decision – to the President of the United States, who had nothing to do with it.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
Cases and deaths have been on their normal weekly tick down so we haven’t heard anything from jack. These next few days numbers will rise as we hit our normal mid week reporting spike. Guess who will suddenly be here to tell us how grim it is.
 

BrownFlush

Woke Racist Reigning Ban King
No matter what decisions Trump made, the left was going to come back and bite him in the arse, no matter the result.
The stock market held up well, and the only people who panicked are the ones who haven't been able to breath since 2016.
 

oldngray

nowhere special
Cases and deaths have been on their normal weekly tick down so we haven’t heard anything from jack. These next few days numbers will rise as we hit our normal mid week reporting spike. Guess who will suddenly be here to tell us how grim it is.
yeah he has been suspiciously quiet as the numbers dropped

So he will cherry pick to find the numbers he likes best. Or if all else fails just make up some numbers.
 
199,245 dead Americans, 6.755+million infected. Yesterday saw the state of California led in deaths with 77. The state of Texas led in new infections with over 4,000. Sadly, this week America will hit 200,000 deaths under a Republican President and Senate. Many right wingers have complained about the same things since day 1 of pandemic. 200,000 dead Americans is more than any flu deaths this year. Remember the clowns yelling, “the flu kills more”. Wrong again.
 

Up In Smoke

Well-Known Member
No matter what decisions Trump made, the left was going to come back and bite him in the arse, no matter the result.
The stock market held up well, and the only people who panicked are the ones who haven't been able to breath since 2016.
One big problem I have with President Trump is he measures his success on the stock market. The market is up because of all the money (our future) that the government has pumped into it. Corporate tax cuts, deficit spending and ten trillion added by the Fed since Covid. Only half of the eligible people are "in " the market. I realize politicians are always running for office and only 60ish% of the people even vote, so they only have to appeal to 30% of the population to get reelected. I was hoping for better for this administration.
 

Brownslave688

You want a toe? I can get you a toe.
199,245 dead Americans, 6.755+million infected. Yesterday saw the state of California led in deaths with 77. The state of Texas led in new infections with over 4,000. Sadly, this week America will hit 200,000 deaths under a Republican President and Senate. Many right wingers have complained about the same things since day 1 of pandemic. 200,000 dead Americans is more than any flu deaths this year. Remember the clowns yelling, “the flu kills more”. Wrong again.

Sounds like the curve has been sufficiently flattened. Nice work everyone.

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