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UPS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT TRAINING.... They only care about having you sign a piece of paper so in the event of a injury they can pull out that paper and say YOU WERE TRAINED...
Then when you try to sue them for neglegence they will pull out that paper along with observations and JHAs and say YOU WERE AN UNSAFE WORKER...
SAFETY TRAINING IS NOT THE KEY- PROTECTION FROM PROTENTIAL LAW SUITS IS THE KEY...
When you are told "This is a condition of employment and termination will result if you fail to sign..."
Maybe corporate forgot to buy each center a new DVD player.... We have the ALL IN ONE TV/VCR COMBO...
Remember when UPS used to say that "X amount of new volume equals X amount of new jobs?" Yea right! X amount of new volume means more overtime.
Would UPS rather have you get overtime or pay out more benefits?
Would UPS rather have you get overtime or have more new hires boost the Teamster dues paying membership?
In all the years I have worked with UPS, this is the first time I have heard ANYONE mention UPS using railroad... I know when we are waiting to see what volume is left (around 7:30am) they will sometimes say we are waiting on 3 rails...
Over Thanksgiving weekend I did notice more FedEx trucks on the roads... The way I see that is FREE ADVERTISING... I did notice more Overnight trailers with the little UPS freight magnets on their cab doors...
We had a HazMat leak on one of our belts... This was a MARKED HAZMAT - Diamond label, shipping papers...
The belt was stopped immediately by a preloader who then told everyone to get back... Our Center Manager came up to see why the belt was stopped and the PT Supe told him. The Center Manager directed preloaders to continue working around the package (within 5 ft).
The Center Manager got someone to pick up the HazMat package WITHOUT any protective gear and place it in a spill tray next to a package car. There it sat for 20 minutes until a Designated Responder could be pulled from the sort aisle and take care of it...
Now you would think with one of the belts shut down they could have pulled the Designated Responder from the sort aisle to get the package... NOPE they just stacked out the belt so it came down as one big mass...
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westsideworma
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Yeah that sounds about right, stress safety and methods then when something happens just forget about it. They were on us about how if we used the methods stacking is never necessary
I was like well if we're going to go by the book, explain to me why I got a 97 pound package in my cage today? I got a blank stare and no response.
WOW, sounds like someone needs to call OSHA. That was a real stupid move by whoever touched it, but you did not specify WHO took it off the belt, if it was a worker then shame on him big big idiot, if it was a supervisor that would not surprise me at all.. In my building we have a responders cage with responders in it already, (yes, that is their main job to respond) If a manager ever "directed" me to remove a hazmat package off the belt i'd say "you first" remember it is not failure to follow instructions when your safety is involved..
Yeah that sounds about right, stress safety and methods then when something happens just forget about it. They were on us about how if we used the methods stacking is never necessary
I was like well if we're going to go by the book, explain to me why I got a 97 pound package in my cage today? I got a blank stare and no response.
97 pounds.... My question about that: was highlight tape visible on ALL sides? One guy on our preload is all about making sure every over 70 has tape visible on ALL sides. He even placed tape every 10 feet on our belt and in each package car so if he does not catch it we can place it on a package. It is helpful in the fact you can see an over 70 from across the building...
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westsideworma
Guest
oh it was on there (the tape and everything), it went through the sort isle and made it to the slide. The sorters up there were less than pleased. I mean i have no problem lifting such package (being in the bottom cage helps too) but some people do. That doesn't even matter really its just the fact that its NOT supposed to be in the boxline if its over 70 and if they're gonna grill us on using our methods and going strictly by the rules, I expect them to do the same.
Sidenote: we also have tape in our package cars, they were getting on us about putting it on (rightfully so) because sometimes it isn't there. If I don't have tape I write on the package with one of the marking crayons how much it weighs so the driver can clearly see. They don't want to be hurt any more than I do I'd imagine
It was a supervisor that removed the package... The preloaders were directed to "work around it - as close as five feet."
At our center we have two hourlies that work on the sort aisle that are certified Designated Responders. I am guessing that since we are not a hub and only have 54 preloaders they can not justify payroll having a person who ONLY handles the HazMat duties.
So if we have a leaking HazMart at the start of sort - They will have someone take it to the HazMat area and there it will sit... It is not taken care of until the end of the sort 3+ hours later.
rngri4
Well-Known Member
You obviously have no clue....the figures show we outdid Fedex on peak day by almost fourfold. Fedex just lost the major footlocker account last week as well, that is another one that is coming back to UPS.
wornoutupser
Well-Known Member
UPS DOES NOT CARE ABOUT TRAINING.... They only care about having you sign a piece of paper so in the event of a injury they can pull out that paper and say YOU WERE TRAINED...
Then when you try to sue them for neglegence they will pull out that paper along with observations and JHAs and say YOU WERE AN UNSAFE WORKER...
SAFETY TRAINING IS NOT THE KEY- PROTECTION FROM PROTENTIAL LAW SUITS IS THE KEY...
When you are told "This is a condition of employment and termination will result if you fail to sign..."
My center had the "so called" Haz Training today.
My opinion is that it is a joke.
The old FILM (not DVD) was shown in an area that no one could hear in. This area is next to the belts and a motor cage.
The training roster said that we had one hour of training. The training did not last one hour-oh- the answers were still on the copy that was used from last year, how COULD you answer wrong?????
I guess that I can expect more harrasment for posting this.
Then when you try to sue them for neglegence they will pull out that paper along with observations and JHAs and say YOU WERE AN UNSAFE WORKER...
SAFETY TRAINING IS NOT THE KEY- PROTECTION FROM PROTENTIAL LAW SUITS IS THE KEY...
When you are told "This is a condition of employment and termination will result if you fail to sign..."
My center had the "so called" Haz Training today.
My opinion is that it is a joke.
The old FILM (not DVD) was shown in an area that no one could hear in. This area is next to the belts and a motor cage.
The training roster said that we had one hour of training. The training did not last one hour-oh- the answers were still on the copy that was used from last year, how COULD you answer wrong?????
I guess that I can expect more harrasment for posting this.
wornoutupser
Well-Known Member
Lakeland
You can ask some of your feeder drivers about my building and the hazardous packages.
I have personally had a leaking hazardous on my car and I was INSTRUCTED to put it in a DR bag and deliver it later in the day. You should read the MSDS about breathing the fumes from this mess!
My building is famous for all types of problems with hazardous packages. Many have been instructed to deliver the leaker or bag the leaker. One driver ended up in a Haz Mat call from the fire department and they went to the E.R.
Another driver had ammonia leaking and was instructed to keep going.
The company can not figure out why we have an attitude problem over here.......
You can ask some of your feeder drivers about my building and the hazardous packages.
I have personally had a leaking hazardous on my car and I was INSTRUCTED to put it in a DR bag and deliver it later in the day. You should read the MSDS about breathing the fumes from this mess!
My building is famous for all types of problems with hazardous packages. Many have been instructed to deliver the leaker or bag the leaker. One driver ended up in a Haz Mat call from the fire department and they went to the E.R.
Another driver had ammonia leaking and was instructed to keep going.
The company can not figure out why we have an attitude problem over here.......
satellitedriver
Moderator
His last remark may not be fair, but what is in life? If you are upset at the term "kid", then you are acting like one. I did not start driving at UPS until I was 33 and I have been doing it for 20 years. For you to say you can "outwork" him, then prove it. Just judging from his post, I would guess he was working at UPS while you were still in diapers. 20,30 years from now I hope you remember your post and reflect what a foolish young person you were.
I think I could out work you even at my advanced years.
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westsideworma
Guest
well that sucks for me....I have a mall with a footlocker store in it again now. I was happy it was gone for a while, then I lost the mall truck, and now we regained the account again just in time for me to get the mall back....beautiful lol.
this truck already gets over 300pcsthough rumor has it we lost the pampered chef account...to Fedex...wonder how long that will last
CTOTH
Not retired, just tired
I'm not upset at the use of the term 'kid'. Afterall, it's only label and has has no bearing or influence on my character or personality.
You sound like a child asking me to prove that I can outwork him and/or yourself for that matter. Let me just hop on the next flight your way (sarcasm intended). I can already tell that I will be reflecting on my posts in this forum in retirement since your profoundness will weigh on me until that time.
I was simply trying to point out that not every "kid" from my generation is a lazy, no good slacker. If you do not agree then you are merely showing your ignorance and immaturity to the Brown Cafe community. At least I have an excuse being a 'foolish young person' and all. What's your excuse?
satellitedriver
Moderator
My excuse is I am childish foolish old man.
The "prove it" comment was intended with sarcasm. Prove it by doing it for 20 years, then you have the right to say you can outwork someone.
I like you attitude, but you are the one who brought up the "outwork" B.S..
You can hop on anything you like.
A word of advice. (take it or leave it)
Look before you leap, you may not like what you land on.
PAX,
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rngri4
Well-Known Member
well that sucks for me....I have a mall with a footlocker store in it again now. I was happy it was gone for a while, then I lost the mall truck, and now we regained the account again just in time for me to get the mall back....beautiful lol.
though rumor has it we lost the pampered chef account...to Fedex...wonder how long that will last
Does your mall have a Rack Room? I was called today by our new dispatch sup who replaced me, asking for advice on something, and he told me, I don't know if this has any truth but supposedly Rack Room is now going to FedEx, I am sure that will upset a lot of people.......lol.
Oh gee.... I always look forward to being hit with 15 to 20 large boxes coming down the belt at the same time... And that is missed work for the guy who loads the mall truck because he is getting hit with Footlocker...
