Covid vaccine.

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
Why did Joe Biden get a shot he said was rushed and vetted by a politicized and influenced FDA?

He said that in September of last year. Guess he and Trump both felt comfortable enough about the vaccine by the time they received it. Trump doing so quietly after having been previously infected and Biden doing so on live TV.
 

Box Ox

Well-Known Member
So he pushed anti vaccine rhetoric, then there was an election, and he stopped. What changed?

Probably the same thing that changed Republicans’ minds about the vaccine after Trump lost the election. Just in reverse.


So Democrats fomented doubt in vaccine safety for political gain?

In Trump as a leader. Which was pertinent to the election and seems to have been accurate given the low uptake of the vaccine by Republicans who worship him to this day.
 

Lambo

Stacking Boxes
It's not the symptoms right now.
It's the symptoms/problems years down the road.
I saw a report saying 100 people were stricken with Guillain Barre Syndrome from the J and J shot.
Google GBS. I understand it can cause life long impairment.

"What's a syndrome?", you ask.
It's a cluster of symptoms. Sound like fun?

Hope this helps.
Lunatical conspiracy theorists are on the UPS forums?? Weird. The more you know I guess lmao.
 

salty one

Member
Lunatical conspiracy theorists are on the UPS forums?? Weird. The more you know I guess lmao.
You do realize that EBV can cause cancer and six autoimmune disease, and that an enterovirus is strongly linked to type I diabete. Herpes and varicella (chicken pox) remain latent for life, and HIV’s initial symptoms are just a cold.

We shouldn’t be so trusting of pathogens, or assume that they don’t have long-term health risks, even if the initial infection is mild. There‘s a lot we don’t know about the immune system and viruses.
 

Off the leash

Well-Known Member
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zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
You do realize that EBV can cause cancer and six autoimmune disease, and that an enterovirus is strongly linked to type I diabete. Herpes and varicella (chicken pox) remain latent for life, and HIV’s initial symptoms are just a cold.

We shouldn’t be so trusting of pathogens, or assume that they don’t have long-term health risks, even if the initial infection is mild. There‘s a lot we don’t know about the immune system and viruses.

Who is "trusting" of pathogens? We certainly shouldn't trust pathogens created in a lab, or the experimental medical interventions quickly pushed to market to combat them. And we really shouldn't trust the "experts" who have lied about it the whole way.
 

salty one

Member
Who is "trusting" of pathogens? We certainly shouldn't trust pathogens created in a lab, or the experimental medical interventions quickly pushed to market to combat them. And we really shouldn't trust the "experts" who have lied about it the whole way.
All of the people who don’t mind getting infected with the virus, thinking it’s just a cold are clearly thinking that the rest of the vaccine are much greater than the risk of infection with an unknown pathogen. You have a choice to be exposed to the spike proteins in order to build antibodies, or have the live infection itself.
 

Darmark7

Retired 2020. Not my Problem Anymore!
When a person refers to a person that doesn’t take this shot as an “anti-vaxer“ that just shows their ignorance on what they allowed someone to put in their body and become a lab rat for with no compensation. It explains why they would be defending that decision over and over again. Have You ever caught someone that did something really stupid. They never just confess they just double down on stupid.

The Vaccines Aren’t Really Vaccines


A traditional vaccine involves an injection either with a weakened form of the virus you are protecting against or a similar virus. Either one can produce antibodies that remain in the system and fight the actual disease if you get it.
These new “vaccines” are entirely different. These treatments use experimental genetic modification to inject you with mRNA, which is a partial strand of genetic code. That mRNA then enters your cells and orders the cells to construct a spike protein similar to SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID). This spike protein then precipitates antibodies that can reduce your reaction to SARS-CoV-2 if you get it. But the “vaccine” does not prevent you from getting COVID, and it does not prevent you from spreading it to others. The spike protein remains with you indefinitely. In effect, you have modified your own genetic make-up to fight COVID without actually gaining immunity and without reducing transmissibility.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, if you’re immune to a disease, “you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.”But these vaccines do not prevent you from being infected or spreading it to others. Some have likened them to chemotherapy for a cancer you don’t have.
 
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Off the leash

Well-Known Member
When a person refers to a person that doesn’t take this shot as an “anti-vaxer“ that just shows their ignorance on what they allowed someone to put in their body and become a lab rat for no compensation. It explains why they would be defending that decision over and over again. Have You ever caught someone that did something really stupid. They never just confess they just double down on stupid.

A traditional vaccine involves an injection either with a weakened form of the virus you are protecting against or a similar virus. Either one can produce antibodies that remain in the system and fight the actual disease if you get it.
These new vaccines are entirely different. These treatments use experimental genetic modification to inject you with mRNA, which is a partial strand of genetic code. That mRNA then enters your cells and orders the cells to construct a spike protein similar to SARS-CoV-2 (the virus that causes COVID). This spike protein then precipitates antibodies that can reduce your reaction to SARS-CoV-2 if you get it. But the “vaccine” does not prevent you from getting COVID, and it does not prevent you from spreading it to others. The spike protein remains with you indefinitely. In effect, you have modified your own genetic make-up to fight COVID without actually gaining immunity and without reducing transmissibility.
According to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, if you’re immune to a disease, “you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.”But these vaccines do not prevent you from being infected or spreading it to others. Some have likened them to chemotherapy for a cancer you don’t have.
They won’t admit that they’re unpaid lab rats
 

zubenelgenubi

I'm a star
All of the people who don’t mind getting infected with the virus, thinking it’s just a cold are clearly thinking that the rest of the vaccine are much greater than the risk of infection with an unknown pathogen. You have a choice to be exposed to the spike proteins in order to build antibodies, or have the live infection itself.

You are asserting that people trust the pathogen. That's not it. They are trusting their own immune response. We don't know long term effects of either covid or the "vaccine", so It's a false dichotomy.
 
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