Coldworld
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So how would this division get wind of anything happening within the company???There is a division within the national dedicated to UPS issues.
So how would this division get wind of anything happening within the company???There is a division within the national dedicated to UPS issues.
So how would this division get wind of anything happening within the company???
You think the company is going to say that feeder drivers will be out of work because of a coyote... I'm not so sure about thatYou don't think they meet on a regular basis?
And where in any part of the CBA is that allowed?
And here I thought the CBA was in effect all 12 months of the year, not suspended during peak.
Billy broker gets the sleeper pay day and our seniority driver gets 8 hours? If any displaced driver gets one minute less than they would have earned on THEIR BID RUN, someone should be in jail for theft.
The lengths this company will go to make sure the subcontractors are taken care of. Makes you feel like the runt of the litter.Most supplements allow for a temporary change lasting 30 days or less. The affected drivers can bump the least senior feeder drivers until the run is put back in.
It is. UPS can implement a temporary change anytime they want, per the contract, lasting up to 30 days.
I agree that it sucks and that it should not happen. Problem is, per the contract, UPS can do this.
The sleeper guys/girls stand to lose a lot of money for 4 weeks. But, per Article 43, sleeper drivers are only guaranteed 40 hours per week.
UPS found a way to keep the contractors around, giving them 4 straight weeks of work, without having to pay them more.
They could not find enough contractors willing to work just a few days a week here and there. They all would not have enough work. Now they do, and no, I do not agree with how they are doing it, but I also don't agree with many other things in the contract.
No language allows this in NM Art 43. It appears you're referencing CRT Art 3 Sec 13, which covers actual elimination of work, not transfering work to another entity (broker), which also violates NM Art 3 Secs 4 & 7. And therein lies the compounding problem. The run never dried up, it's just being done by someone else. Therefore they don't have bumping rights as bumping can only occur if the run is gone. This will produce layers of affected drivers all eligible to grieve for any reduction in pay. This was a massive failure to understand language by people who should know better. Very disappointing.Most supplements allow for a temporary change lasting 30 days or less. The affected drivers can bump the least senior feeder drivers until the run is put back in.
No language allows this in NM Art 43. It appears you're referencing CRT Art 3 Sec 13, which covers actual elimination of work, not transfering work to another entity (broker), which also violates NM Art 3 Secs 4 & 7. And therein lies the compounding problem. The run never dried up, it's just being done by someone else. Therefore they don't have bumping rights as bumping can only occur if the run is gone. This will produce layers of affected drivers all eligible to grieve for any reduction in pay. This was a massive failure to understand language by people who should know better. Very disappointing.
Most supplements allow for a temporary change lasting 30 days or less. The affected drivers can bump the least senior feeder drivers until the run is put back in.
It is. UPS can implement a temporary change anytime they want, per the contract, lasting up to 30 days.
I agree that it sucks and that it should not happen. Problem is, per the contract, UPS can do this.
The sleeper guys/girls stand to lose a lot of money for 4 weeks. But, per Article 43, sleeper drivers are only guaranteed 40 hours per week.
UPS found a way to keep the contractors around, giving them 4 straight weeks of work, without having to pay them more.
They could not find enough contractors willing to work just a few days a week here and there. They all would not have enough work. Now they do, and no, I do not agree with how they are doing it, but I also don't agree with many other things in the contract.
No language allows this in NM Art 43. It appears you're referencing CRT Art 3 Sec 13, which covers actual elimination of work, not transfering work to another entity (broker), which also violates NM Art 3 Secs 4 & 7. And therein lies the compounding problem. The run never dried up, it's just being done by someone else. Therefore they don't have bumping rights as bumping can only occur if the run is gone. This will produce layers of affected drivers all eligible to grieve for any reduction in pay. This was a massive failure to understand language by people who should know better. Very disappointing.
Where we are, if UPS is using contractors, and you have hours available, you can have them give you work up to your 60 hours. If not, you can file on it, and win. Here, management will just give you rail turns and pickups to fill your time. But it is up to the driver to force the issue.
What will happen to all of these sleeper runs after christmas???what can these coyotes do better than our own people??? What is the purpose of using these critters on our sleeper runs???Our sleeper guys that lost their runs bumped into other jobs.
Is this in the western conference????Where we are, if UPS is using contractors, and you have hours available, you can have them give you work up to your 60 hours. If not, you can file on it, and win. Here, management will just give you rail turns and pickups to fill your time. But it is up to the driver to force the issue.
What will happen to all of these sleeper runs after christmas???what can these coyotes do better than our own people??? What is the purpose of using these critters on our sleeper runs???
Not sure that is it... If that's the case get rid of all the drivers hereCheaper?
They would love to, if it weren't for that pesky collective bargaining agreement.Not sure that is it... If that's the case get rid of all the drivers here
CentralIs this in the western conference????
Very true. Just as contractor package car drivers would be much cheaper too.Cheaper?
Let a bunch of old timers go back to pkg... Might bankrupt the company